User talk:Ahanamirza

Notability

Hi there, re: Draft:Abdul Quadir Amin, before proceeding any further with that article, so you don't needlessly spend your time, you need to familiarise yourself with our notability guidelines, as Wikipedia is not a promotional forum or a social media platform. We only care about people who have properly established themselves in their chosen fields, and whose notability can be demonstrated to satisfy our community standards. For actors specifically, you can find info at WP:NACTOR. In order for the subject to be considered notable, they must have had multiple significant roles in major projects. Background characters, minor characters, etc. are not sufficient. There's also our General Notability Guideline, which says that for any subject to be considered notable, they must have been the subject of independent significant coverage in multiple reliable sources. So if nobody is writing articles about Abdul Quadir Amin (and no, interviews do not count), then the subject is not notable enough to have an article at Wikipedia. If you have any questions, feel free to respond below. Thanks, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 00:06, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

@cyphoidbomb : Hello there first of all I know this is not a promotional forum and I am not promoting any individual, I am trying to do what I am researching about this character Abdul Quadir Amin to make a proper article almost first time in my life, secondly interms of notability a siginificant role is very important to consider but i found this Abdul Quadir Amin work in multiple projects, I personally watched every movie to see where he was in the films, after all aspects i considered to write an article, right mow i am concentrating on this article only because i feel until unless i get my first article done properly then i will find it out another to write. I also read the guidline for actor here I find I should not write notable word in the begining of the article. I started this article because i saw related movies cast & crew were incomplete. anyway thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ahanamirza (talk • contribs) 05:22, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Abdul Quadir Amin (May 24)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Jmcgnh was:  The comment the reviewer left was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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— jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 17:24, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

Hello, Ahanamirza! Having an article declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! — jmcgnh(talk) (contribs) 17:24, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

May 2018

Hello. This is a message to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions, such as the edit you made to Draft:Abdul Quadir Amin, did not appear constructive and has been reverted. Please take some time to familiarise yourself with our policies and guidelines. You can find information about these at our welcome page which also provides further information about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. If you only meant to make test edits, please use the sandbox for that. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you may leave a message on my talk page.

Submitting this article for review again without adding references that support notability looks like disruptive editing. Adding a pile of references to IMDB after use of IMDB as a reference has been removed from the draft looks like you are not paying attention.

I'm going to let someone else decline your submission so you can have the benefit of a second opinion, but consider yourself on notice that submitting the article without having provided substantial improvement is just wasting the reviewers' time. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 13:44, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

Hello as u said i read the guidline but my point is i havent mention that the actor is notable, he is just an actor and we should give this article atleast a chance .. i find so many articles of actors where imdb is the only source but they are still having a main space article so my question is why not him ... help with the same thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ahanamirza (talk • contribs) 19:39, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

First, your dogged pursuit of this article causes me to ask if you have a connection with Abdul Quadir Amin. If so, you need to review our conflict of interest policy and follow the instructions there.

Second, you do not seem to understand that an article cannot pass through the Articles for Creation process without a determination by the reviewer that the subject is notable, in the Wikipedia sense of the term. It sounds like everyone, including you, agrees that Amin does not meet this criterion. Therefore, there can be no article at this time.

Last, your plea to ignore our standards and let this article in seems to recall the arguments from the essay other stuff exists. That argument has no weight here. If you find articles that are improperly sourced and do not meet our standards, you would be doing the project a service by nominating them for deletion. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 21:25, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

COI

Hi, good luck for your article for creation draft but please read WP:COI... thanks --Adamstraw99 (talk) 00:48, 27 May 2018 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Abdul Quadir Amin (May 31)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Jmcgnh was:  The comment the reviewer left was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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— jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 06:46, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

Ahanamirza, if you're going to edit at Wikipedia, you need to familiarise yourself with our guidelines on reliable sources. The mere existence of a website or blog, like the one you submitted here doesn't mean that those sites are reliable. Tens of thousands of sites exist on the internet to harvest content from other sources without regard for accuracy. Please stick to mainstream sources with established reputations for fact-checking and accuracy. Since we're talking about an Indian actor, you should probably look at WP:ICTF#Guidelines on sources for a general list of sites that are and are not considered reliable in the context of Indian films. I don't see how a random Dutch website would be sufficient here. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 02:35, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

Ahanamirza, again, if you keep submitting insufficient references like you've done in these edits, your draft is going to keep getting rejected. You need to figure out which sources are and are not sufficient. That burden shouldn't fall on other editors. There's no indication that trailercity.org has any editorial standard. For all we know, they scraped content from this very draft article. You've picked a random Russian website, which even you expressed some doubt about. The harishankargroup.com website lists "Mr. Abdul Quadir Amin" among its graduates, but how do we know it's the same person? We're lacking independent verification. like2do.com is very obviously a Wikipedia mirror just in general structure, but they also say "This article uses material from the Wikipedia page available here" (and link to the relevant article.) We can't use Wikipedia as a reference because it is user-generated. See WP:UGC. ilubilu.com: another faceless blog. instaview.site: another faceless website that only seems to exist to scrape Instagram content. (The reference URL doesn't produce any result, by the way.) Anyway, per WP:NACTOR, in order for this draft to move to live article space, you need to prove that Amin "has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions." If he's just a bit actor who gets some minor roles here or there, it's far too early for him to have an article, and all of the poor references in the world won't help to sway the result. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:15, 12 June 2018 (UTC)

(edit conflict)

Ahanamirza, I see you are still adding references to the draft, but it appears you are not evaluating your references at all. A Wikipeida articles is not a collection of all known mentions of a person, it is intended to be a summary of substantive published information about their subject. Once you have one, or at most two, citations that establish that the actor appeared or was credited in a film, it is a waste of your time and ours to add more. Furthermore, this draft is not going to be accepted with low quality references that do not establish notability, regardless of how many you add. You've been pointed to the notability criteria before, we've had a discussion at MfD and concluded that this actor is not currently notable, a conclusion which you appear to have agreed with.

So what's the story? You have attempted to add links to your not-yet-accepted page on other pages, without citing a source. You claim you do not have a conflict of interest, but this sort of single-minded purpose makes that a little dubious. It's starting to verge onto the territory of disruptive editing and not being here to build an encyclopedia. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 17:23, 12 June 2018 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Abdul Quadir Amin (June 12)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by CNMall41 was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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CNMall41 (talk) 18:45, 12 June 2018 (UTC)

You need to change direction

I'm afraid you've gotten started on the wrong foot here on Wikipedia. You appear to have come here with the fixed idea that you can add an article about an actor you are interested in. As it turns out, your original idea was incorrect: the actor does not meet Wikipedia's standards for notability and there is no amount of work you can do that will change that fact. The only thing that can change that fact is out of your control - Amin's career needs to develop more, so that independent writers pay attention to him and start to write more in-depth articles about him. That may still happen, but it's not currently true, to the best of our ability to discern it.

Instead of spending time on the Amin draft, or vainly trying to insert Amin into other articles, it is time to shift your direction. For instance, you could find other shows and actors who already have articles and who are being written about in depth, and improve those articles. This activity will be seen as productive to the project and will add to your editing experience so that you can judge sources and properly join in arguments about content.

While single-purpose accounts are not forbidden, they are scrutinized for signs of conflict-of-interest editing and signs of undisclosed paid editing. And, eventually, competence is required, although not instantly. If you continue to indiscriminately add low-quality sources to this one draft, your activity will be considered disruptive editing and may result a loss of editing privileges - that is to say, you may eventually be blocked for not learning how to contribute positively to Wikipedia. The community of editors is happy to support your learning activity, don't be afraid to ask questions or to ask for advice. Still, you need to show that you've listened to the advice you've been given. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 18:09, 22 June 2018 (UTC)