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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Constantin Turmac (talk | contribs) at 11:30, 10 October 2018 (My first "Talk" (communication) in Wikipedia). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

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Hello, Constantin Turmac! Welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. You may benefit from following some of the links below, which will help you get the most out of Wikipedia. If you have any questions you can ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and ask your question there. Please remember to sign your name on talk pages by clicking or by typing four tildes "~~~~"; this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you are already excited about Wikipedia, you might want to consider being "adopted" by a more experienced editor or joining a WikiProject to collaborate with others in creating and improving articles of your interest. Click here for a directory of all the WikiProjects. Finally, please do your best to always fill in the edit summary field when making edits to pages. Happy editing! Cabayi (talk) 18:17, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Snagov Club moved to draftspace

An article you recently created, Snagov Club, does not have enough sources and citations as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. — Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 08:48, 7 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Snagov Collection Museum

Likewise for Draft:Snagov Collection Museum. It may help you to read your first article. Among the problems,

Cabayi (talk) 18:16, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Managing a conflict of interest

Information icon Hello, Constantin Turmac. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about in the page Draft:Snagov Collection Museum, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a COI may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:

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Also please note that editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. It's now apparent from your upload that you have a paid relationship with Snagov Museum Collections, the Snagov Foundation, and that your own business Snagov Tur is in the business of promoting tourism to Snagov. Cabayi (talk) 15:46, 9 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]


Thank you for your help / assistance.

I am a beginner in creating pages / articles in Wikipedia ... This is my first (ever) message on Talk .. and my context / approach is somehow different.

After your (yesterday) message, I have started to watch YouTube short videos and follow some of the (too) many links / rules related to Wikipedia. Is good that exist a tough control (make a better & reliable WP). My previous perception was from 2007-2009 when in WP I found some inconsistencies and materials breaking copyright expectations. But I today I see a huge infrastructure and fast reactions to make sure - no more such cases appears.

So, I need few more hours (to read more 10-20 materials and maybe 5-10 videos) - to finally begin a coherent dialogue.

After I will finish 1-3 pages, I consider that I need to be "adopted". Because I have worked 10+years on a set of cultural and natural projects (about which visibility on internet is under 5%). And those info deserves to become public and (re)checked and 100% credible (and I do not have time to learn by errors + compromise the considered topics). I assume I should create aprox. 20-30 new pages (in/for Wikipedia). And I know over 50 existing pages on which I would like to make improvements. (This is what I can do until Dec 15.2018).

I need some help/supervision also because (as I see in 2018, compared with 2008 ..) - Wikipedia has a much better internal organisation and great chances to become/remain the main source of correct info. (and complexity & requirements & tools - also multiplied). I find great the fact that (finally) can be putted (much easier) links to sources. (I will need to learn & maybe upload various research studies about biodiversity - latter to may cite/quote). And history - culture.

I have seen you warnings (thank-you) and requests. I am beginning to read more about requirements in order to try to save your time. Thank you again for feedback. In future still remain the possibility to make some mistakes (and I still do not understand some particularities).

First changes: I will start with Sandboxes (for new pages). I will ask for help (at this level) - and publish much latter. I will search for as many as possible (external) links and relevant citations.

Question 1: I am the president of NGO Fundatia Snagov which created "Snagov Collection Museum" (recognized and approved by the Romanian Ministry of Culture after a commission went through a procedure and worked 9 months...). Also, as volunteer NGO, Fundatia Snagov take care of the natural protected area "Lake Snagov" (for which were made 10 scientific researches with European Money and approved by Romanian Ministry of Environment). We are not paid to present or promote these info. But nobody else is doing it. We can upload parts of the researches (it has some copyright limitation). But if we do not present and rely & argue based on such scientific confirmations - we remain invisible and fail in our mission to protect/defend the protected natural area .. Many cultural and natural very valuable assets are still owned by the state and after 1989 reduced the visibility and access to them. From 34.000 day tourists (by end of 1982) or 20.000 by 1933, to less than 50 in 2018. Examples of very important touristic assets, which deserve a presentation at least for theirs historical and cultural roles: [Snagov Palace], Ceausescu Vila, [Snagov Club], Snagov Monastery, Caldarusani Monastery, Tiganesti Monastery, Imre Nagy monument in Snagov, Virgil Madgearu monument in Snagov, the Collection about Vlad Tepes the Impaller which got 30 awards from which 20 - international ones and so on. State owned biurocrats will not have any initiative. And they do not like or wish tourists and/or visibility (despite so it was in past..). And our NGO - Fundatia Snagov members, have decided to force them and somehow to increase public visibility. We can produce huge amount of historical + cultural references for them (but mainly we will have to scan + upload many scientific and official records & articles & books from period 1930 - 1989 ...). Already exist a set of small articles made by various journalists in various publications (so third party / but in my opinion theirs writings are short confirmations, not as detailed and professionally sustained with references - as exist but not - yet - visible on internet).

How & what to do?

So, is Ok if I will present something like the following confirmation?

Question 2: Re: Snagov Museum Collection >> I am the president of NGO Fundatia Snagov which (from nothing) created it. And we have made the digital (and paper) brochure mentioned in the page (article) which you have considered as not having copyright for it. Its content was supervised by the Romanian Ministry of Culture (which give a small financial help by 2012 to make a small public event with aprox. 40 participants - through national program). So, without this public presentation brochure - we have nothing else as public reference. (or maybe few very short articles made by some junior journalists - which I do not consider relevant). So, that brochure is not made by a person alone (was supervised /controlled and needed to satisfy many objective criterias) and is also the single serious presentation source. Without it, I don't know how I can present Snagov Museum Collection .. Please advise me - how to solve this problem? What is sure is that tourists are coming and appreciating the museum. They recommended us to include it in TripAdvisor. And they (also) say that it should have some (third party) references... From where to start?

Question 3: Re: Snagov Club => pictures >> The location has many very interesting histories attached. I have presented few phrases + 1 picture about it. Then I thought that I should say something about today's usage. So I contacted the manager which granted permission to use any current picture (from theirs site) and even re-sent some of them to me. I can present some interesting historic tales & happenings about most spaces (current restaurants). I don't know how to approach this topic ... The current manager is not directly related to the owner of the location. Which still belong to RAPPS which is the Romanian state owned entity which administer most important assets in Romania, including many valuable touristic - historic locations (with 4 of them, located in Snagov). The owner (RAPPS) don't need or wish visibility or tourists. They even hate any such attempts. Theirs goal is to have top quality with have access only for few small groups. In rest to stay idle (because theirs wages & life is much easier this way). But Fundatia Snagov (a NGO) try to re-make these more open & visible for public an entire set of such 3-6 locations in Snagov area. Plus few monuments. Plus 3-4 important monasteries (including Snagov, Caldarusani, Tiganesti). All it's rather an uncharted area (set of subjects) - from internet current visibility. But with huge documentation - without scanned & uploaded info (in internet). And we intend to do something ...

Sorry for this long email / answer. You can ignore it (if it's odd, long, too complex and mixed up). Because I will (also) return point by point to each of your mentioned problems with some shorter answer (or justification). Prior to all, I will learn more about WP and I plan to create a new page for another relevant subjects in Snagov area: Collection about Vlad the Impaller which has 30 awards (20+ - international ones). I will first upgrade a set of pages bundled with external - international references. Then, prove that is part of Snagov Museum Collection. Then see if this approach is more productive.

Thank you for your time, --Constantin Turmac (talk) 11:30, 10 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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