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Welcome

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Hello Jparcoeur, and Welcome to Wikipedia!

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Jparcoeur, good luck, and have fun.TheLongTone (talk) 17:37, 10 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sandbox

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To make a page in your sandbox all you need to do is click on the "sndbox" link at the top of the page & then edit that...what you have done is create a page called "Sandbox/testsandbox" in article space, which I am sure is not what you wanted to do...I'm nominating it for speedy deletion as a test page. Any questions, leave a message on my talk page, which is linked afetre my signature. TheLongTone (talk) 17:41, 10 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

TheLongTone; I am just tryig to learn how this all works and was experimenting wiht how to set up multiple sandbox files. Any hints?Jparcoeur (talk) 17:47, 10 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Type "User:Jparcoer/sandbox2" into the wiki search box & accept the option to create the page. & so on, iesandbox3 &c. You can also create named userpages, eg User:(username)/draft article title. TheLongTone (talk) 10:31, 11 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Change in your user rights

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Your Wikipedia account was previously granted a user right called "course instructor" by the Wiki Education Foundation. That right enabled you to create a course page through the EducationProgram MediaWiki extension. Starting in fall 2015, the Wiki Education Foundation has discontinued its use of this extension. Going forward, users should create course pages through the Wiki Education Foundation website. That application is more user-friendly, and any content is automatically mirrored to Wikipedia. To prevent confusion, we'll be removing your "course instructor" user right, as it is not needed with the new system. This is simply a notification of the technical change to your account. No action is needed from you at this time.

If you plan on teaching with Wikipedia for the fall 2015 term, please email me (helaine@wikiedu.org) for instructions how to create your next course page using our new system. --Helaine (Wiki Ed) (talk), sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 02:34, 21 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Student Editor User:Plama002

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Hello,

I recently noticed that the student editor mentioned in the title showed up on my new pages feed, with a page created on the 17th of October, 2016, with the formatting for references entirely incorrect, no informaiton of the subject except using a few WP:Peacock terms, I think. I don't really know science. It's a page that does not need to be created, as pages for the three things already exist. (Uniporter, Symporter, Antiporter). One of the other students is even working on one of those pages. A page for all three combined is not needed on Wikipedia except as a list format, with a detailed discription, and with actual references. I'll be adding a few tags to it to help a bit. Thanks, Adotchar

Also, I used the {{trout}} template on his user talk page in a new section, just to give some emphasis. Please take a look at it. User talk:Plama002 Adotchar (talk) 21:40, 17 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I have deleted the trout and the appalling comments that went with it. Your student might need some reassurance that not all WP editors are so WP:BITEy. LadyofShalott 04:01, 18 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
They weren't appaling, it was meant to be humorous but as it's text on a screen, it's quite easily misread as a more threatening tone. <nowiki>For example, "You messed up, a lot, on Uniporter,Symporter,Antiporter." Was not meant to be read threateningly, but humorously. Sorry for any confusion. Adotchar (talk) 09:20, 18 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hello!

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About a week ago, Plama showed up in the New Pages Feed. Now that I'm no longer a NP Patroller, I stumbled across Tmckn001 in Recent Changes Patrol. Just to inform you, he made two possibly-constructive edits to his sandbox. Those edits have been marked as good-faith edits. Thanks, Adotchar (talk) 10:00, 26 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Problem with your UPGMA explanation

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I think you need to always go back to the first distance matrix to get your distances for the calculations. You use the working matrix to identify the closest taxa but you do not use those to calculate the next working matrix. The reason is you end up taking averages of averages (dividing by the number of taxa too many times). The third iteration shows the problem. The depth of each node is an estimate based on the arithmetic average of the distances of all individual taxa on either side. If you use the first distance matrix as you should, then that last node is (31+30+39+31+34+43)/6 = 34.667/2 = 17.335 deep and not 16.5. It will mess up some trees if you do it the way you state. I just covered UPGMA in class so I really need it fixed ASAP or I will use it as an example of how not to do it. I will let you take first crack at fixing it. Thanks, Jparcoeur (talk) 14:58, 29 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Jparcoeur: many thanks for your comment. There are two ways to explain the method: either you build upon each iterative, smaller, working matrix as explained in the UPGMA page, or you come back to the initial matrix as you suggest. Both yield the same dendrogram. However, you did a typo mistake in your calculation. For example, for the last node, we have to average all 6 distances between (a, b, or e) and (c or d), i.e., [ (ac + ad) + (bc + bd) + (ec + ed) ] → [ ( 21 {but not 31 as you wrote} + 31 ) + ( 30 + 34 ) + ( 39 + 43 ) ] / 6 = 198 / 6 = 33. So the depth is 33 / 2 = 16.5. To better understand the importance of the third step, please compare UPGMA with WPGMA, and have a look on the second distance matrix update: thanks to the proportional average, the calculation of the new distance accounts for the larger size of the (a,b) cluster (two elements) with respect to (e) (one element). Finally, you might want to check the results with a web server, for example: DendroUPGMA, a dendrogram construction utility. All the best, Manudouz (talk) 20:05, 29 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ways to improve Ragulator-Rag complex

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Hi, I'm Rosguill. Jparcoeur, thanks for creating Ragulator-Rag complex!

I've just tagged the page, using our page curation tools, as having some issues to fix. The article looks great! Some of the content from the lead should probably be moved to the article body to make it more accessible. You should also consider adding a "See also" section to the end of the article to link to other relevant concepts in cell metabolism

The tags can be removed by you or another editor once the issues they mention are addressed. If you have questions, you can leave a comment on my talk page. Or, for more editing help, talk to the volunteers at the Teahouse.

signed, Rosguill talk 19:55, 24 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the help and praise. I have a great set of students working on it and have passed on your comments. This is all their work. 137.142.46.79 (talk) 14:33, 25 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]