Talk:John Lydon

Nationality

A user has changed Lydon's nationality to Irish on a number of occasions recently and on the last occasion added a citation which does indeed indicate to me that Lydon holds an Irish passport. I propose that the lead should change to:

• ... is an English-born Irish singer, songwriter, and musician

Unless there are objections I will make the change shortly. CalzGuy (talk) 10:12, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

That may have been a bit hasty. Another citation here suggests he has multiple passports, including a British one. So how best to express that in the lead? CalzGuy (talk) 10:20, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

Yes and this suggests he also has a US passport. So how should that be expressed in the lead?

References

First image in article

I believe the John Lydon - 2010.jpg image that was there until recently is the better image. The John lydon live 27 10 2013 photo 13.JPG image is much less clear. His face is darker, and it is obscured by the microphone and lights. The 2010 image is well focused, well composed, and brighter than the other. My two cents. Willondon (talk) 22:33, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

The King is gone, but he's not forgotten.

Does anyone know anything about the reference to Johnny Rotten in Neil Young's Hey, Hey, My, My? Why did Young put it in there? What was Lydon's reaction/response to it? What exactly is the meaning to the reference? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 156.57.144.81 (talk) 00:59, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

The song is discussed at some length in its article - Hey Hey, My My (Into the Black) - though the Johnny Rotten reference is not discussed in detail. Was it correct to say that Johnny Rotten had burned out ? He wasn't Johnny Rotten by that time, I suppose.

Here's something from Mr. Lydon:

"Also in 1979, Neil Young released "My My, Hey Hey (Out of the Blue)," which was about you. You tried to get him on your Rotten TV show, but I don't think you've ever said what you thought of the song itself.

Well, I've always loved Neil Young's music so you know, like, wow. One of my all-time favorite albums was [1975's] Zuma. It's so close to collapsing [laughs]. I really loved the mood and tones he puts into songs and, uh, so there that comes along.

"This is the story of Johnny Rotten."

"Oh, hilarious! I wanted to know what it was about. "The king is gone but not forgotten?" King? [Laughs] Gone? [Laughs] Well, it helped lurch him back into a career there somewhat."

-- https://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/john-lydon-and-his-rotten-past-20150429 -- Beardo (talk) 03:23, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

Or -

maybe he was just pressed for rhymes.

the king is gone but he's not pernicious

the king is gone but he's not delicious

the king is gone but he's not doing the dishes

the king is gone but he's not FORGOTTEN

- https://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=41&threadid=35841 - Beardo (talk) 04:49, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

But pernicious, delicious, doing the dishes would not rhyme with the end of the first line. Unless the first line were to have ended in vicious -- which is perhaps informative!

Nuttyskin (talk) 17:05, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

Libel

Nothing I've said is libel

Which would have been true. Slanderous, perhaps (though as we now know, not untrue) but not libel: libel can only be said of a thing that has been written, or published online. Nuttyskin (talk) 17:14, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

Anarchism

I think he has several different things on the issue over the decades. I don't think we should place so much emphasis on one quote.--Jack Upland (talk) 08:31, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

When did John become an American?

When did John Lydon become an American?