Talk:Betazoid

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The Question has been raised:

When Betazoids reach the age of 40 years, do they undergo menapause or puberty? Startrek.com is vague, but it says they reach "maturity" at age 40.

Well, it can't be puberty, since both Lwaxana and Deanna had children before they were 40. Unless they age very slowly...but I don't recall ever hearing that. I always understood "age of maturity" as a polite way of saying menopause. Adam Bishop 02:52, 26 Aug 2003 (UTC)

I changed the word to "maturity" until we can resolve this. I really think that it's more like puberty, since Lwaxana is far more sexual in here dottage. She could have been 40 when she had her daughters... And Deanna's child could have been a fluke... Sigh, I'll investigate. tjdw

As mentioned in the article, it's a period of increased sex drive called the Phase. See "Manhunt" (TNG). - Montréalais 01:16, 1 Sep 2003 (UTC)

Yes, a period of increased sex drive. The Phase occurs around the same time that menopause does in humans, but it can't be menopause because Lwaxana had her third child well after entering it. For all we know Betazoids don't experience menopause. Noneofyourbusiness 17:12, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Telepathy and half-betazoids

I may be wrong, but from what I've understood by watching TNG, full Betazoids are both telepaths and empaths (like Lwaxana), and half-Betazoids are just empaths (like Deanna). I seem to remember that in the first episode with Lwaxana, she made fun of her daughter because she could only sense emotions, and not thoughts as well. And Lwaxana stopped a sabotage attempt on the Enterprise just by casually reading the saboteur's mind, in that episode, I believe.

I could be wrong, though. It's been a long time. Dehumanizer 00:01, 31 Aug 2004 (UTC)

The telepathic powers aren't as strong as the empathic ones in hybrids, but they are capable of limited telepathy with people they know well (Deanna speaks telepathically to Riker in the series premier). Lwaxana first appeared in the episode about Deanna's betrothal, she foiled the sabotage plot in another one. Noneofyourbusiness 17:04, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Eye color

I have again removed[1] the bold part of the following text:

Externally, Betazoids are nearly indistinguishable from humans, the only difference being that the iris of a Betazoid's eyes, is completely black.<ref>[http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Betazoid#Physiology Betazoid Physiology]</ref>

as well as the associated references section. I appreciate that the assertion has finally been sourced, but I remain quite skeptical. I'm not convinced that memory-alpha, the Star Trek wiki, meets Wikipedia's standards of verifiability of reliable sources. Consequently, I have requested comment here. Tomer ^talk 16:39, 22 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

One RfC response

Memory Alpha cannot be considered a reliable source unless the information specific to this article has an independent source to corroborate. --Hemlock Martinis 20:13, 22 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Second RFC response

I have to agree with Hemlock Martinis. Memory Alpha is essentially the Wikipedia of the Star Trek universe, so we need to apply the same rules to anything posted there that we would apply to anything posted here. That means applying WP:V, and the claim has no V. Without a better citation, preferably from something like the Star Trek bible or some Paramount/Roddenberry-authorized book, the eye color statement should be removed. --Aaron 20:29, 22 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's true

The Betazoids do indeed have black eyes. That information is on the official site, not to mention any episodes of a Star Trek series in which a Betazoid has appeared. The actors wear black contacts. People who don't watch ST and therefore don't know anything about the mythology shouldn't mess with this article. -- Freemarket 12:27, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've been watching Star Trek for eleven years, but that doesn't change the fact that articles have to be sourced. Now that the article's been sourced properly, the dispute is over. --Hemlock Martinis 14:01, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Deanna's Accent

Didn't Lwaxana mention in one episode that Deanna had picked up her accent from her father?