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Note to self ...

Note to self, <rantmode on> since the VPN we use at work is hard-blocked and I technically don't meet the requirements for WP:IPBE (yes, I know, I don't, it's just a serious pain to try to work through mobile device when I'm actually on a full laptop!). </rantmode off>

Ravensfire (talk) 17:30, 30 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Happy New Year, Ravensfire!

Happy New Year!

Ravensfire,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
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Search Engine Optimization

Apologies for bothering you. I just received a message from you about my editing at the Search Engine Oprimization page:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Search_engine_optimization

After reading everyhting, I did not understand what I had to do so I deleted my contribution and not to cause further trouble.— Preceding unsigned comment added by NamiSwan64 (talk • contribs) 15:22, January 1, 2020 (UTC)

Bigg Boss

Hi Ravensfire I don’t want to complain but Shehnaaz for Bigg Boss is used everywhere and User:Kaustubh42 doesn’t seem to understand I have also said this on the talk page but he is still saying. Shehnaaz name is spelt like this as it’s common. Please make him understand ShehnaazGill1210 (talk) 12:54, 4 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

ShehnaazGill1210, you are BOTH at fault here. There's a core concept on Wikipedia called WP:BRD - Boldy make a change, but when it gets Reverted, Discuss it on the talk page. You haven't bothered with that last part but keep edit-warring. You cannot control someone else's actions, but you are always in control of yours. Ravensfire (talk) 14:39, 4 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
And then it just turns out this is another sock of a person who thinks they are above the rules and policies of Wikipedia, who manipulates others, who ignores anyone else, who is just there for their own personal gain. And then wonder why I revert their edits. Ravensfire (talk) 21:41, 4 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Steve Walsh (musician)

I noticed that you didn't fix all of the vandalism, so I restored the article to the last good version.--2601:153:901:60C0:4030:5257:78E8:CB2E (talk) 01:47, 13 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(IamAkashVJ)

// Sorry Ravensfire (talk) i'm just fresher here.. sorry for unsourced update which i update.. i don't know the rules of wikipedia.. i just read ur msg.. after that i read Wikipedia:Policies and guidelines & Wikipedia:Contributing to Wikipedia here after i don't do that type of things. i start learn from here. .if i do anything plz info or tell me i wil correct my mistake. thank you IamAkashVJ (talk) 01:54, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Michael Behe

Hi Ravensfire,

Thank you for your feedback. However, I am confused as to how my edit does not adhere to the Wikipedia's neutrality policy. I simply removed the word "pseudoscientific" in an article referring to Intelligent Design. In fact, placing "pseudoscientific" there at all is what violates the neutrality policy. There is no reason for that word to be there. It has an obvious bias and is NOT in keeping with Wikipedia's neutrality policy. Thank you Easwans (talk) 21:38, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Easwans, Quite simply, your definintion of neutral doesn't match what Wikipedia uses. "Neutral" in Wikipedia's terms means to describe something as it is generally described by high quality secondary sources. ID as a scientific view is strongly derided by the reliable source. The page on WP:NPOV may be helpful to you. Ravensfire (talk) 22:04, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
You can also look on the article talk page and the archives for the multiple previous discussions about this and the reasoning into why Wikipedia uses the term pseudo-science. Ravensfire (talk) 22:06, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Invitation to join the Dr. Blofeld CCI cleanup effort

Hello. You are invited to join the Dr. Blofeld CCI cleanup effort, a project which aims to cleanup and resolve the largest copyright investigation on the site. Directions on how to help are at the main cleanup page. It is ok if you choose not to assist, as a large amount of people are already helping out- but your contributions would be appreciated, even if you make just a few. 💴Money💶💵emoji💷Talk💸Help out at CCI! 00:39, 16 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Web archive

Hi! Is there any simple way than wayback machine to archive the references for Wikipedia articles? Noobie anonymous (talk) 07:11, 16 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Noobie anonymous, unfortunately, that's the easiest way to archive that I know about. There are scripts that help a lot with that though. Ravensfire (talk) 13:19, 16 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Tanaji

Income 143.75 core Adityarajpanigrahi (talk) 17:25, 17 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Adityarajpanigrahi, I'm going to assume you mean this film - Tanhaji? The gross in that film is sourced to a solid source, so you've got to give a different source. Your post is better left on the article talk page though. Ravensfire (talk) 18:06, 17 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ok Adityarajpanigrahi (talk) 15:18, 18 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion of Sachin Bandara

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User edits

This user is creating drafts of announced films and moving it instantly, violating WP:NFF ([1][2]). I believe this user knows that too as he removes the hidden note here for adding those films. Also reverting[3] edit without explanation. 2409:4073:284:F4C9:1528:D8A8:4D49:C6A1 (talk) 14:24, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I've notified them of both. For what it's worth, I think the Visual Editor sometimes strips out embedded comments. I could be wrong, but that's my supposition. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:19, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Cyphoidbomb, it can, but sometimes inconsistently. The template editor needs some more work and there needs to be a better way to include instructions for how to use template fields and show them in the editor. I know there is a templatedata section that is supposed to help, but I don't know how well that system works let alone if it actually gets noticed/read by editors. Ravensfire (talk) 16:21, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Could you please move those two film articles to draft. It's better that way than getting deleted. 2409:4073:187:C18A:D962:32F5:E560:41FF (talk) 15:19, 21 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Conflict of Interest Claim

I have no connection to any of the parties whose pages I am editing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AtlantaResearcher (talk • contribs) 23:39, January 20, 2020 (UTC)

Of course not! It's not like all of your edits are obviously promotional or anything like that. Nope - nothing to see here. Clearly no COI or undeclared paid editing happening. Clearly! Ravensfire (talk) 13:37, 21 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Award referencing

Hey there, re: this, I'm not sure how easy it is to source a lot of the Indian awards. I keep running into obstacles like, Award Entity A only posts current winners on their website. Take the Indian Telly Awards. Where do I go to verify this content? Their website only has the current winners. There's some foresight! Ah, but maybe I can check The Wayback Machine! Damn, no, requires Flash. Here are the 13th Annual Edison award nominees. Note the lack of a date. Gee, I wonder who was nominated in 2015. First I'll go to their root domain since they don't have any navigation buttons, then I'll go here where the link says "Edison Awards Nominee Announcement 2015". A blank page. Great. Mind-boggling.

My New Years Resolution was to get really hardcore about these awards, because it seems like these marketing teams create these biographies, drop a bunch of unsourced, difficult-to-verify awards, and never bother improving the sections. It really is bizarre--they add references for tons of other stuff, but almost never for awards. Anyway, I don't expect you to do anything. I just wanted to rant. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:43, 22 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Cyphoidbomb, yeah, I've hit that as well. Sometimes there's a decent newspaper source that lists the actual winners which really helps. I'm frankly shocked that these award websites don't have a simple History page showing the past nominees and winners for their awards. That just makes sense to me - clearly though I'm just talking crazy like that!
Just as fun, when I'm searching for sources for an award, sometimes sources use the event number (The 9th Annual Ravensfire Roast Awards!) and other times it's the year (2020 Ravensfire Roast Awards!) but is that year the current year, or the year in which the movies are considered.... GAAAHHHHHHH!!!! I've already started the day ranting at an unrepentant edit-warrior that should know better, this is a much better soapbox to crawl up on and bellow out my frustrations! Ravensfire (talk) 17:20, 22 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The lack of historical foresight across Indian entertainment is fascinatingly frustrating to me. Most of the film posters don't have billing blocks. Rarely do you ever know who the official "stars" are of a film. The trades never publish their own "top 20 highest-grossing films" lists with agreed-upon figures. Everybody just assumes Wikipedia is correct I guess? In TV articles, people will remove actors that are no longer on the show, as if these people should be forgotten. I have tons of complaints about this subject area... Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:43, 22 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Cyphoidbomb: Even the sources considered "reliable" sometimes just copy paste stuff from Wikipedia. Number of Sockmasters are increasing day by day and so is these stupid terms like "Parallel Lead". Some issues are "cultural" like the concept of copyright which a lot of people from India are not well taught about but other times it is just stubbornness of the user which is very difficult to handle. Sid95Q (talk) 19:45, 22 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism at Naagin (2015 TV series)

Hello, Can you please deal with User:Bakwas Drama. This user is highly disruptive. Keeps reberting to versions with unsourced, made up info, adds supporting characters in starring, adds in house awards (Zee Rishtey, Colors Golden Petal Awards) and keeps reverting to version before a user copy edited. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2409:4055:29f:e5df::2e2:60a1 (talk) 10:02, January 27, 2020 (UTC)

At this point, you are both edit-warring over the article and that's a bad thing. You both need to go to the article talk page and start discussing the edits. I'm going to leave warnings on both of your pages about edit-warring and also see about getting the page fully protected to force some discussion. That's about all I can do at this point though, sorry. Ravensfire (talk) 15:20, 27 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Not surprisingly, the IPv6 was CU blocked and Bakwas Drama was indeffed as a sock of Balaji Telefilms Limited. So it's a bit hilarious that either of these trespassers would be riding any sort of moral high horse. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:25, 27 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Cyphoidbomb, I know - I was laughing at the irony of it .. and laughing fake-hysterically at the just insane number of socks in this area. At times, I wish CU checks were run periodically to look for the more regular sock masters but I know that's against CU policy (and for good reasons). Ravensfire (talk) 17:30, 27 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know why it couldn't be an automated process. Let the CPUs look through suspicious ranges for potential abuse and then ping the CUs for further investigation. How'd that be any different from me digging through anon edits? Unfortunately, I'm not technologically bright enough to bring something like that to fruition. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:33, 27 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Ha! Just noticed that the parallel plea from Bakwas was on my talk page. Silly. (BTW, did you know your signature talk button doesn't work? Your name links to your talk page, but not the talk. On purpose?) Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:36, 27 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Cyphoidbomb, well, it *should* be working, I'll have to play around with that later on when I have more time. Interesting, obviously something minor, love wiki-code sometimes! Ravensfire (talk) 17:48, 27 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not Both

Hey, re: this, I asked Bbb23 to take a look and they responded that there was no evidence of socking. Thought you might wanna know. :) Cyphoidbomb (talk) 04:43, 28 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Devoleena Bhattacharjee

Actually, that article was fake, her actual date of birth is 22 August 1990.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Saswata 7773 (talk • contribs) 06:17, January 29, 2020 (UTC)

Saswata 7773, Without any evidence of the source being fake or a source to support 1990 as the birth year, Wikipedia will always stick with a sourced number. Ravensfire (talk) 14:27, 29 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
And on the subject's talk page, I already gave this editor advice on how to potentially remedy this: Since they claim to know Bhattacharjee, they should have her contact the source and have the source issue a correction, which is standard for quality news outlets. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:51, 29 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Looks like the user has a propensity for being a birth year expert. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:57, 29 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Check few websites like stars unfolded.com, wikibio, wikiwiki etc.

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