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neutrality

The neutrality of this article is certainly suspect. There are many passages with words like 'brilliant' and 'excellent' that have no citations. N1ugl 21:02, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The neutrality of this article is indeed suspect; therefore I added the POV template. The frequent use of phrases or words like "Kargil Martyr", "unprecedented brutal torture", "the Pakistan army had indulged in the most heinous acts" does not represent a neutral point of view. So far, no references have been made about Pakistan's position concerning the incident which would certainly be helpful since it could provide a less one-sided view. If no sources/references from Pakistan can be obtained, at least the language should be changed in a way that represents a neutral point of view. PINTofCARLING (talk) 17:43, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

citations added and article made more neutral

Only one usage of word brilliant is present. Citation to the same has been added from an official government websiteSaurabh Kalia where he is indeed described as a "brilliant" student. considering that user N1ugl falsely refers to "many" instances of words "brilliant" and "excellent", neutrality of his own objections is possibly suspect.

--Abhisri 02:05, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

read more carefully

I said there were many words _like_ excellent and brilliant. Meaning many words that had the same glamorizing effect, not necessarily repeated use of the same word. N1ugl 19:55, 18 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

please be more specific in future

1. Your objection was as to there being no citation for such words. To quote you.

"There are many passages with words like 'brilliant' and 'excellent' that have no citations."

You are misquoting yourself as well. I can still read "many passages" not "many words". Grammatically speaking, your sentence will be assumed to imply multiple occurrence of "brilliant" or "excellent", but I digress.

2. He has indeed been described at least as a brilliant student, having landed scholarships, as per official government sites. Citation regards same as been added.

Regardless, article now is far more neutral than earlier. Glamorization has been removed. Abhisri 05:09, 20 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Assessment comment

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Saurabh Kalia/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

Lead section is missing. It should summarize the information on who this guy is. GDibyendu (talk) 17:15, 13 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Last edited at 17:15, 13 June 2008 (UTC). Substituted at 05:30, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

Martyrdom

To say that the guy is a "martyr" is to use a subjective word, just as one person's "freedom fighter" is another person's "terrorist". Please do not do it - it doesn't matter if all 1.2bn people in India agree with you (which they don't), there are many more billions of people who would prefer the neutral "killed". Thanks. 146.200.49.240 (talk) 12:44, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]