Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of character races in Dungeons & Dragons

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The result was delete. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 03:42, 14 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

List of character races in Dungeons & Dragons

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Fails WP:LISTN and WP:GAMEGUIDE. A WP:OR, non-notable list that reads like a guidebook to the game. Most of the links in the list have been deleted or merged. _{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 11:16, 6 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - Per WP:GAMEGUIDE. This collection is purely as a gameguide. There is no notability for this matter outside of the game. It could be a useful colelction for gamers but there are gamer wikis for that. -- Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 11:55, 6 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - The list is for fans, by fans. It is simple game guide material without any sources to back notability. TTN (talk) 11:59, 6 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
How many of the blue links go to actual articles and how many are just redirects? Anyone got a bot to count those automatically? Dream Focus 12:42, 6 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

At a glance, there's probably less than 10 that aren't redirects, and many of those articles are either in the process of being deleted for non-notability or could be because they lack notability._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 13:39, 6 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I've little doubt this is going to get deleted. But that said, it really shouldn't be. Finding independent sources for this in traditional media is hard. Not because it isn't there, but because there are so so many sources that are either not hugely reliable (blogs etc.) or aren't independent (100s of books where this is an underlying part of the book). But there finding things that inarguably count toward WP:N is like finding a needle in a haystack. So IAR keep is my !vote as given the huge resurgence of D&D ([1]), this is a notable topic as a major part of a hugely influential franchise. But I've not got the hours it will take to dig up sources. I've little objection to the deletion of most of the D&D monster articles--this is the wrong place for almost all of them. But this belongs IMO... Hobit (talk) 00:35, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The problem is, we need such sources. And I have trouble imagining such a list has been discussed outside in-universe game-guide and like sources. The concept of Character race is one thing, the list of fictional races from any particular setting is quite another. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 06:00, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I know what we need, thus the IAR part. But yeah, I'm fairly certain there has been plenty of coverage. Lots of history here. Finding the sources is hard just because there is so much stuff. Hobit (talk) 22:43, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Seems like pure GAMEGUIDE. Fails NFICTION/GNG. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 05:58, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - A catalog of game information whose data came straight from primary game books. Very few of the blue-links actually lead to articles, but instead just lead to other D&D lists. The lack of sources on the overall topic so far indicates a failure of WP:NLIST Rorshacma (talk) 16:01, 13 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.