Talk:Element (software)
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Multiuser calls cannot be encrypted?
there is a rumor that multiuser calls cannot be encrypted. https://www.reddit.com/r/riotim/comments/cht2me/are_calls_via_riot_end_to_end_encrypted/
I could not locate a good source for this Disoff (talk) 23:44, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
Encrypted by default
@134.100.186.60:, afaik from the linked source, https://github.com/vector-im/riot-web/issues/6779, riot still seems unencrypted by default. However, tot feel free to provide a newer/better source! Ancecdotally, from playing around with riot on my device, the rooms i made were not encrypted by default.
I just found out i cannot ping an unregisterd user, taking talk to their talk pg! --Disoff (talk) 01:14, 10 April 2020 (UTC)Italic text
No email or phone number required
Is it appropriate to find a source and mention this in this article? Many competing services, like whatsapp require one/both of email/phone. --Disoff (talk) 23:01, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
Element or Element.io?
Is the client software Element or Element.io? The official site speaks of Element, this article speaks of Element.io. Likewise, the same could've been said about its former name: Riot or Riot.im.
It seems New Vector is still the company behind it, despite announcements. And Element is more than the client? The citations given are contradicting each other. 84.250.17.211 (talk) 14:30, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
I also removed the DMM reference, because it's a guest post, an opinion of someone. DeathMetalMods itself doesn't have an article on English and German Wikipedias. It is difficult to make any judgement other than the author (Lurz) to conclusively recommend Riot, with criticisms. Finally, the aspect of looking for federation is not specific to Riot (the article subject). 84.250.17.211 (talk) 15:29, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
Disruptive use
PinkNews article: [1]. I didn't want to place undue WP:WEIGHT in the article, the mention of Riot is also passing. I looked at Discord (software)#Disruptive use as an example. 84.250.17.211 (talk) 18:02, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
Golem.de reception
While the following is probably no longer the case, I wrote this for the "Reception" section but didn't publish it in the article due to my feeling of its inclusion being undue weight. I couldn't find a good reference to say it to be something else today.
In 2017, German computer magazine Golem.de called Riot (and Matrix server) as "mature" and "feature-rich", while criticizing its key authentication at the time to be "anything but user-friendly" for many communicatees with multiple devices each. A co-founder of the project, Matthew Hodgson, assured the key verification process was a "placeholder" solution to work on.[1]
84.250.17.211 (talk) 18:21, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
References
- ^ "Echtzeitkommunikation ausprobiert: Willkommen in der Matrix". Golem.de (in German). Retrieved 2018-11-04.
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Element.io → Element (software) – I believe "Element" to be the correct name. Formerly, this article was Riot.im. @Koavf moved it to Element.io today following the old article name, although all prior references in the article also called the software as "Riot" (not as Riot.im) – I've fixed this in the article body, to match the citations referenced. Likewise, what little primary sources and the official website say, they say "Element" (not "Element.io"). The proposed target's naming convention is similar to Discord (software). As an unregistered user, I'm unable to perform this move myself. 84.250.17.211 (talk) 18:46, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
- This is a contested technical request (permalink). —Nnadigoodluck🇳🇬 21:22, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
- Support, or Element (instant messaging client). Pages in Category:Free instant messaging clients tend to use "(software)" or "(instant messaging client)". The latter may be more clear. – Thjarkur (talk) 21:38, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
- Support The suffix .io suggests that Element is a web app but there are standalone desktop and mobile clients as well. It should be noted though that per WP:NATURALDIS titles that do not require parentheses are preferred. I do not like "(instant messaging client)" because it is much longer than "(software)". —Dexxor (talk) 22:21, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
- Support per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 22:25, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
- Support However, set up a WP:R from this page to the new Element (software) Scaledish! Talkish? Statish. 16:05, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
- Support Robin Townsend (talk) 17:30, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
- Support Anton.bersh (talk) 17:47, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
- Support marviiin. The product is called Element, not Element.io. The only reason why Riot was renamed Riot.im was as a way to try to distinguish it from Riot Games, whereas Element is simply just 'Element'. Therefore "Element (software)" would be the right name, similar to "Discord (software)". (Source: I'm the project lead for Element/Riot) Marviiin (talk) 09:57, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
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