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  • Talk page posts created using User:DErenrich-WMF/Add A Fact Experiment. This is an AI tool for suggesting additions to a page; it creates a talk page section including a piece of information and a pre-formatted citation. Because of its basis in AI, the suggested additions are either quotations or very close paraphrases. As such, they appear to violate copyright, and if naively transferred to the article, they will introduce copyvio in mainspace. Yngvadottir (talk) 23:49, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Yngvadottir: thanks for bringing this to my attention though I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. The extension doesn't suggest particular text to add to the article. It saves a short snippet of a source and a reference to that source to the talk page so someone can later add that information to the article in a non-copyright violating manner. Are you saying the snippets are too long? DErenrich-WMF (talk) 00:33, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • I'm saying they are inherently copyright-violating, because AI can't paraphrase sufficiently. There's a bit more leeway on talk pages, but the quotes are indeed over-long. Also, although the tool uses the wording "See the quote below", by referring to the suggested material as "a fact" and presenting a suggested citation, it risks a naive editor simply importing the text into the article (possibly not even realising it's a quote, since it's indented rather than in quotation marks). The presentation ignores the basic guidance to summarise sources in one's own words in favour of suggesting accreting points taken directly from sources. Yngvadottir (talk) 01:03, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
        The AI isn't doing paraphrasing. Those are literal quotes from the source. The AI is involved primarily in identifying the article and checking if the fact is already present in the article. I agree we could do a better job clarifying that the quoted text is indeed a verbatim quote (we're using the blockquote element but we could also add quotation marks). What would you say is the longest a quote should be in this context? We could truncate it. DErenrich-WMF (talk) 01:17, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
        I suggest changing to quote marks and also changing the suggestion text from I found a fact that might belong in this article. See the quote below  ... The fact comes from the following source: to An AI search has found a source online that might be a useful reference for this article. The source is: The passage that provides information about the topic is: "...". And remove the second quotation from the wikitext snippet. I've tried to minimise the chance of an editor coming across the suggestion and simply copying it into the text by eversing the order of URL and quotation, removing the suggestion that the editor quote the passage in the reference, and defining it as a potential source of information rather than a recitation of a fact. It would also be a good idea to make the quotes shorter, simply because excess use of quotation skirts copyvio in itself. But I have no idea of quantification, because it partly depends on the length of the source: quoting the entirety of the relevant paragraph from a 3-paragraph news snippet is clearly more dubious than quoting the exact same number of words from the middle of a scholarly article, but quoting the entire concluding paragraph or summary of a scholarly article is also excessive. Yngvadottir (talk) 08:26, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Off-by-one error (history · last edit · rewrite) From this page, however I am not sure who copied from who and the text on the article may have come from another one given this edit. However, I can't investigate any more at the moment. JoJo Eumerus mobile (main talk) 18:00, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]