Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jamal Malyar

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The result was keep or possibly merge – that can be discussed on the talk page. – Joe (talk) 13:51, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Jamal Malyar

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Doesn't appear to meet WP:GNG or WP:BIO. The only web sources I could find are mostly focussed on this movement PTM. I cant find many reliable sources that are independent of this subject. The coverage that exists for this person consist mostly of routine coverage of the movement and a few articles regarding his arrest. But certainly "significant coverage" does not exist, which is a key requirement in meeting WP:GNG Kami2018 (talk) 21:15, 30 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Kami2018 (talk) 21:15, 30 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. Kami2018 (talk) 21:15, 30 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Pakistan-related deletion discussions. Kami2018 (talk) 21:15, 30 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep as it seems a well sourced article about a notable personality. Khestwol (talk) 22:29, 30 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
As a side note, as I have written before, the nom Kami2018, who is mass reporting Pashtun articles for deletion, has disruptively edited articles about Pashtuns in the past and was recently given "last warning" on his talk page twice for removing sourced content from various related articles. Thanks, Khestwol (talk) 22:29, 30 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as per above CreativeNorth (talk) 11:49, 2 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep : Undoubtedly keep. The nomination is WP:DE. The article deserves to stay.--Harryishere (talk) 10:36, 3 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Blocked for UPE. MER-C 08:27, 7 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Possibly a disruptive nomination. ~EDDY ^{(talk/contribs)}~ 16:01, 3 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
~~Keep~~ Merge This article is well-written and has multiple sources that appear to meet WP:BIO. The numerous AFD nominations on similar Pakistani activists make me agree with other wikipedians that this could be disruptive editing. Terasaface (talk) 01:27, 6 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Terasaface How is nominating these articles disruptive when they dont even have a single article or source dedicated to them. They dont fall under the general notability guidelines and wikipedia gives the right to nominate the articles. They are barely mentioned when they are either arrested in a group or when they are sitting with leader of the movement. The person who is notable is Manzoor Pashteen, Mohsin Dawar etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kami2018 (talk • contribs) 03:55, 6 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Kami2018, thank you for linking Manzoor Pashteen and Mohsin Dawar; looking closer I do see your point in comparing these subjects' notability. From my point-of-view it seems disruptive to nominate seven articles from the same creator for deletion on the same day, however, I also see now that Khestwol has a 33% deletion rate of new articles created, which is also suspicious. This situation may be an edit-war or simply editors not assuming good faith, neither of which are the proper ways to engage in this dialogue. I believe we must act with sensitivity regarding articles related to the ongoing Arab–Israeli conflict, however, upon further review I do agree that this article may not quite meet WP:BIO after all. I am changing my vote to Merge and I believe we can merge this information into Pashtun Tahafuz Movement. Terasaface (talk) 13:46, 6 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Terasaface. Thanks for your !vote, but your opinion is not clear to me. Merge to where; Pashtun Tahafuz Movement or Pashtunkhwa Milli Awami Party (PMAP), as he officially represents PMAP (in the past general election)? Khestwol (talk) 14:57, 8 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Those arguing to keep this are pointing to the sources currently in the article, but whether they constitute substantive coverage has not really been discussed.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Vanamonde (Talk) 00:00, 9 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per @Terasaface: Ytpks896 (talk) 11:39, 10 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
As I replied above to @Terasaface: Jamal Malyar is officially a member of Pashtunkhwa Milli Awami Party (as in the recent general election), not Pashtun Tahafuz Movement. Terasaface has not answered my last question related to this point (although she was initially arguing in favor of keeping). Thanks, Khestwol (talk) 07:25, 17 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.