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Please see the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ukrainian subdivisions. Irpen 20:23, Apr 6, 2005 (UTC)

Summary of older discussions:

Kharkov

Surely the fact that the city is also known by its Russian name Kharkov, especially before Ukrainian independence, ought to at least be mentioned in the "Names" section, if it's too controversial to put in the lede.2601:85:C202:150:C59E:7642:AF90:3129 (talk) 13:56, 15 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I decided to be bold and just add it to the lede. It shouldn't be controversial that the city was known as Kharkov in most English sources until 1991. At the moment the "Battle of Kharkov" links make little sense without this information somewhere.2601:85:C202:150:1DA8:64B3:4025:3291 (talk) 17:19, 17 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Demographics

The article has been showing the following table:

Ethnic group 1897[1] 1926 1939 1959[2] 1989[3] 2001[4][5]
Ukrainians 25.9% 38.6% 48.5% 48.4% 50.4% 62.8%
Russians 63.2% 37.2% 32.9% 40.4% 43.6% 33.2%
Jews 5.7% 19.5% 15.6% 8.7% 3.0% 0.7%
  1. ^ Первая всеобщая перепись населения Российской Империи 1897 г. Распределение населения по родному языку и уездам 50 губерний Европейской России Демоскоп
  2. ^ Історія міста Харкова ХХ століття, Харків 2004, р. 456
  3. ^ Cite error: The named reference Our Kharkiv was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
  4. ^ "Общая информация о Харькове на vharkov". vharkov.ru. Archived from the original on 29 August 2014. Retrieved 18 June 2017. {{cite web}}: Unknown parameter |deadurl= ignored (|url-status= suggested) (help)
  5. ^ "Всеукраїнський перепис населення 2001 – Результати – Основні підсумки – Загальна кількість населення – Харківська область:". 2001.ukrcensus.gov.ua. Retrieved 18 June 2017.

The citations for the 2001 census data have a problem.

  • "Общая информация о Харькове на vharkov". vharkov.ru. Archived from the original on 29 August 2014. Retrieved 18 June 2017. {{cite web}}: Unknown parameter |deadurl= ignored (|url-status= suggested) (help)
    This purports to have the following data for the city of Kharkiv: Демография: Национальный состав Харькова (Перепись 2002 г.) Русские: 33.2% Украинцы: 62,8% Другие национальности: 4% [Demography: National composition of Kharkov (Census of 2002) Russian: 33.2% Ukrainians: 62.8% Other nationalities: 4%]

There is a page from the Ukrainian census of 2001 that has data for Kharkiv Oblast (i.e. not just Kharkiv but other towns and rural areas).(Eng) (Ukr) This gives data for 1989 and 2001:
1989 Kharkiv Oblast

  • Ukrainians 62.8%
  • Russians 33.2%
  • Belarusians 0.7%
  • Jews 1.5%

2001 Kharkiv Oblast

  • Ukrainians 70.7%
  • Russians 25.6%
  • Belarusians 0.5%
  • Jews 0.4%

Your will notice that the figures from the vharkov.ru website are exactly the same for Ukrainians and Russians as the data for 1989 for Kharkiv Oblast stated in the 2001 census documents.-- Toddy1 (talk) 14:47, 4 September 2018‎ (UTC)[reply]

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Wrong population number

2,139,036 looks inadequate.

According to the corresponding article on the Ukrainian Wikipedia (https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A5%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%BA%D1%96%D0%B2), it's 1,446,107 (estimated) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pyshch (talk • contribs) 16:12, 24 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Don't believe that bloody clown UeArtemis!!!

Here is what he poses as "Coat of arms of Kharkiv": https://eo.wikiquote.org/wiki/Dosiero:Perszyj_herb_Charkowa.svg

Here are historical coats of arms of Kharkiv: https://trim-f.livejournal.com/359.html

Just another example: https://ueartemis.livejournal.com/26365.html -- Besides lying in the article he cannot understand that sabre cannot have such an LGBT-shape!195.114.145.132 (talk) 07:38, 27 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The colours of the coat of arms are unknown. I based my vector version on the raster from Wikipedia. The french shield is not inherent to the Cossack heraldry, it's Russian. --Юе Артеміс (talk) 07:57, 27 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
it's Russian. As you yourself)[1][2]195.114.146.190 (talk) 16:53, 30 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
version on the raster from Wikipedia Proof please!195.114.146.60 (talk) 04:37, 31 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Wait a minute. What in the heck is a "sabre with an LGBTQ shape"? I've read a lot of nonsense on Wikipedia Talk Pages, but that is now right at the top. --TaivoLinguist (Taivo) (talk) 08:10, 27 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
It means that Юе Артеміс is a homophobe...195.114.146.190 (talk) 16:56, 30 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Why? It's more likely that you are.--Юе Артеміс (talk) 18:01, 30 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
You see! Юе Артеміс is a homophobe!!195.114.146.60 (talk) 04:37, 31 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Юе Артеміс, Any proof? Any idea? File:My Coat of arms of Belarus.svg[3] -- Юе Артеміс definitely knows how TRUE coat of arms should look) But he didn't make it in LGBT-colours! That's because UeArtemis is a homophobe... BTW I don't think that shape of escutcheon is a big deal. "it's Russian"(c) Firstly it is not true, secondly how square or circle could be "Russian" or whatever else?! UPD I was right: shape of escutcheon is not described in blazon! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.114.146.60 (talk) 18:55, 31 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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