Talk:Cumbia

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Is this really an ambiguous term?

Seems more like a WP:Broad-concept article to me. We can't just move this over the top of Cumbia; this strikes me as a sort of WP:Content fork. There are over 700 links which would need to be disambiguated.

Even on Spanish Wikipedia there are nearly 400 links that still need to be disambiguated. – wbm1058 (talk) 17:05, 3 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Merge proposal

Some unlucky moving was done, making Cumbia a redirect to this page. But with Cumbia essentially empty, the content of this page should be better placed at that page. The Banner talk 10:56, 21 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The two pages shouldn't be merged. They should be WP:ROBIN swapped per WP:MALPLACED.

There's also the suggestion, above, that Cumbia should be a BCA. That change could follow a ROBIN swap. Narky Blert (talk) 11:08, 21 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No objection against a swap. The Banner talk 11:59, 21 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! Im agree with the merge, I want to explain why:

Moment # 1: The entry "Cumbia": Contained the information of the Panamanian and Colombian cumbia. There was no desambiguation page.

The problem has its origins that Colombian Wikipedians didn´t tolerate that the information of Panamanian cumbia, appeared in the entry "cumbia" next to the Colombian one. Also they didn´t tolerate that cumbia was defined as binational genre. Their thesis was that we were referring to two different genres or that the Panamanian cumbia is a derivative of the Colombian cumbia, so egalitarian redaction was not tolerated although there were sources.

Moment # 2: As a result of this problem, a Wikipedian chose to apply the same solution that was applied in Spanish wikipedia, in that way everyone agreed:

Cumbia: A disambiguation page.

Cumbia (Colombia): All contents about the Colombian cumbia

Cumbia (Panama): All contents about the Panamanian cumbia

Moment # 3: Then came a moving before mine that caused the following problem:

"Cumbia" to "cumbia (disambiguation)".

Cumbia (Panama): It remained

Cumbia (Colombia): It remained

Cumbia: They copied the same information that Cumbia (Colombia) had.

With this, two entries were left with the same information and it was intended to monopolize the "Cumbia" entry with the information from Colombia, leaving out the panamanian and breaking the consensus of the moment # 2.

Moment # 4: With my edition I tried to remedy this situation and far from being unfortunate, I tried to do my best to eliminate the duplication of articles. The idea is to make the entry "Cumbia" a neutral space and not an entry that pretends to be monopolized by nationalist interests.

Im agree that the Cumbia entry (Desambiguation) should be merged in Cumbia. And that Cumbia (Colombia) and Cumbia (Panama) remains, in that way the balance of moment # 2 is achieved, which seemed good to all of us.

Greetings

--Panama1519 (talk) 01:06, 22 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]