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Awards eligibility
[edit]I am astonished what force drives the jury to give awards to the song against the rules.
As for the Academy Award for Best Original Song - the article here says songs that rely on sampled or reworked material ... are also ineligible. Oh well, isn't that clear that the song You've Really Got a Hold on Me could be the inspiration? (Maybe unintentional, but the first tones are clearly the same, although with a little different phrasing.)
As for the Oscar, the dispute was not because of the year 2006 CD, but because it was played on concerts and recorded multiple times from 2002 (!) and it was included in the movie Kráska v nesnázích released in 2006 (see - or better hear :-) - the trailer: http://www.trailerfan.com/movie/kraska_v_nesnazich/trailer). And now, when an evidence from the year 2002 is found, the author simply comes up saying that he "talked about the film" in 2002 (what a coincidence ...) Ignoring the other disputies than just the CD from 2006 is clearly a violation of NPOV.
Please, somebody sum up the other sources and put it into the article. I am unable to do so without breaking NPOV, because I am pretty pissed off by the lies and ignorance of the facts around this song. I do not wish anything bad to Glen and Markéta, they desire admiration for being able to address so many people, but the song is not worth bending the reality just not to spoil the pretty picture some people painted around it. --62.40.79.66 (talk) 19:57, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
- LOL, the people of the Academy broke their own rules. They liked Once so much they broke their own rules. Isn't that cool? Doesn't that speak for how much they liked the movie :D? Nobody is perfect, and everybody is ;) 91.14.202.115 (talk) 20:28, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
- The Academy broke no rules . The song was recorded in 2006 the movie filmed in 2006 , same year as the Cech film you mention , very few songs are written in linear progression . The rules state reworked , or sampled nethier of which can apply to "Falling Slowly". Reworking would one song becoming a different song , a song practically never ends up the same as demo-ed or first recording versions so every song could be classed as reworked if following your logic . And cite your sources for 2002 , its not mentioned in this article or the "Once" article.As for the first statement , hmmmm really ? Again proof is needed . Removing the comment "of songs used in the 2006 Czech movie Beauty in Trouble."Its not mentioned in either articles about the album and movie and is not cited. Murry1975 (talk) 14:37, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
- Just listened to the opening of "You've Really Got a Hold on Me" the same key with a few of the same words ,I -dont -you -but - and I again , coincedence ? Probably . Breaking the rules ? No .Murry1975 (talk) 14:43, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
- The Academy broke no rules . The song was recorded in 2006 the movie filmed in 2006 , same year as the Cech film you mention , very few songs are written in linear progression . The rules state reworked , or sampled nethier of which can apply to "Falling Slowly". Reworking would one song becoming a different song , a song practically never ends up the same as demo-ed or first recording versions so every song could be classed as reworked if following your logic . And cite your sources for 2002 , its not mentioned in this article or the "Once" article.As for the first statement , hmmmm really ? Again proof is needed . Removing the comment "of songs used in the 2006 Czech movie Beauty in Trouble."Its not mentioned in either articles about the album and movie and is not cited. Murry1975 (talk) 14:37, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
Charts numbers
[edit]I'm a bit puzzled by the Irish Singles Chart numbers. Today the claim that it reached #2 in February was corrected to #3 in March, and that seems correct by my reading of Week 9 2008, but if Week 10 ended on March 6th, then it actually hit #3 in February. I don't see where the claim of #28 in December comes from.
The Plateau version starts at #50 in the 2nd week of 2008, climbs to #45 and then #22, and then the next week the Columbia version is at #9. Are they the same version/label?
I see no references to any version of this song in the last 4 weeks of December, 2007. jhawkinson (talk) 15:29, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
Improvements to "Falling Slowly"
[edit]From our analysis of the article, I believe we have identified the three criteria that will be most beneficial toward improving the article. We have identified that there is a considerable lack of background information in the articles opening section, it is important that we add substantial background information to this section. We also believe the article leaves out various key facts throughout its body, this contributes to creating an incomplete fact base for the reader. I think we can agree that we could improve on these two points by adding credible facts and background information. In our analysis we have also determined that the article is lacking substantial media, without pictures and music this article feels very two dimensional. This can be addressed by the addition of pictures, video, and music files. By addressing these three key points I believe we can improve this article, setting it on the path to becoming a featured article. Can we agree that these three are the main points worth addressing? If you have any ideas or thoughts to further improve this article please share them. 24.118.162.211 (talk) 01:34, 7 November 2013 (UTC)gadzokey (talk)24.118.162.211 (talk) 01:34, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
More improvements that can be made: 1. Adding a critical reception subheading to the article to let readers know, if they haven't already heard the song, how others felt about it. 2. There can be an inclusion about the broad way musical of "Once" and a link to the Wikipedia article of it or the actual website for the musical. 3. Either to the history section or the awards section, the ending of Marketa Irglova's speech can be included about why and from where the song was written. ~Any other ideas would be so helpful if these do not suffice. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jkyv713394370 (talk • contribs) 18:32, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
I agree that adding a critical reception subheading would be an improvement. Music is emotional and its meaning can vary from person to person. It is important that we show multiple viewpoints on the song. I think adding Marketa Irglova's speech would be fantastic addition to the history section over the awards section. Any other ideas are appreciated.24.118.162.211 (talk) 21:52, 13 November 2013 (UTC) Gadzokey 24.118.162.211 (talk) 21:52, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
Adding a section about the broad way musical of "Once" would be very interesting and add much more to the article. There is hardly any mention of the broad way performance and it is a very important event and accomplishment of not only the movie, but the song as well. Jq3700jp (talk) 22:05, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
Organization of the article
[edit]I re-organized the contents. I moved the section, "Charts" before "Awards" because it made more sense chronologically. A reader would be able to see where the song went, or the journey of the song such as which country it made it big in, peak position, what year, etc. based off of the chart. The song must have made charts before winning any awards. Jq3700jp (talk) 22:17, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
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