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Tracks/Heckle and Jeckle
[edit]I was stopped in my tracks and lost at "wearing a beat-up fedora under a craggy face". One has to listen to what one is writing and pay attention, if people are to read it. --Wetman (talk) 09:22, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
Heckle & Jeckle were not in Who Framed Roger Rabbit due to not obtaining the rights. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.89.219.115 (talk) 00:35, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
Heckle & Jeckle were not in Who Framed Roger Rabbit: Heckle & Jeckle were not in the film Who Framed Roger Rabbit due to not obtaining the rights. Many people have gotten them confused with the crows in the background playing the instruments while Jesscia Rabbit was preforming. Those were the crows from the 1941 film Dumbo. At the end of the film in which all the Toons appear in the ACME factory and sing "Smile Darn ya Smile" two crows can be seen on the left hand corner. Again those crows are not Heckle & Jeckle. They are two randomly picked crows that were playing the instruments when Jesscia Rabbit was signing. If anyone has a copy of the 2 disc Vista series Who Framed Roger Rabbit a commentary track is provided by Robert Zemeckis and Richard Williams and I am sure they would have pointed out if that was Heckle And Jeckle in that scene. It is true that originally Spielberg wanted TerryToon characters to appear in the film which notably was Mighty Mouse and in that list must of included Heckle & Jeckle but the filmmakers couldn't obtain the rights to the characters, but they did obtain the rights to use Gandy Goose (his partner Sourpuss does not appear). They did however appear in the original screenplay comforting each other over Marvin Acme's funeral. But they did not appear in the film. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fuzzk1 (talk • contribs) 00:58, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
Cleanup in Toon Patrol section.
[edit]When I was reading this page a couple of days ago, I noticed in the section on the Toon Patrol, there was a tag for cleanup. I set to work cleaning the section, bit by bit, over the past few days. I don't know if it's ready yet to have the tag taken down. Any comments? Mess around with the guy in shades all you like - don't mess around with the girl in gloves! (talk) 07:27, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
Piglet from Winnie the Pooh
[edit]I've seen this film twice and during the final scene with all the cartoon characters, I have not seen Piglet or any other characters from Disney's Winnie the Pooh cartoons. Can anybody explain why this was put in the section?—Preceding undated comment was added at 21:43, 27 September 2008 (UTC). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.29.59.179 (talk)
If you look at the train that runs over the dip truck after it crashes through the wall, Piglet can be briefly seen hanging on the end of it.-Endor chicken —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.54.195.81 (talk) 18:38, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
Characters Never Used in Final Film
[edit]I've removed this section again, as it's completely unsourced and speculative. We could potentially list every other character in the known universe under this heading. Unless someone can come up with some reliable sourcing that goes into detail about [why] certain character weren't used, this section doesn't belong in the article, and shouldn't be added back in. TheRealFennShysa (talk) 16:38, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
Thank you. I just removed/fixed the section again of List of Who Framed Roger Rabbit characters. Some one added a plethora of animated characters which was released a decade after Who Framed Roger Rabbit. I feel the list should be locked so no one else can put more characters in it that they wanted in the film. I am a die hard Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles fan but even I know they weren't in Who Framed Roger Rabbit. The film takes place in the 1940's and the TMNT (Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles) were created in the 1980's. Come on.
Kaa the Snake?
[edit]I've finally found Flaps the Vulture in the final scene, but I haven't found Kaa in the final scene. What's the best way to find the background character? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.10.182.243 (talk) 14:07, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
- The rumor came from some information on the Disney wiki. I tried looking for the character, but I couldn't seem to find him. However, I did find a possible background character resembling him in one shot of the final scene (the scene where the Toons jump back and gasp in shock when Roger gives Eddie the handbuzzer); a character can be seen seen between Madame Upanova and Hyacinth Hippo in the background. That could be him.-Endor chicken —Preceding undated comment added 19:45, 21 August 2009 (UTC).
If I probably found Kaa between Madame Upanova and Hyacinth Hippo in the background, does his head look light pink?--Ilovekatecapshaw (talk) 21:17, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, I think that's more like Sir Hiss from Robin Hood than Kaa because he's wearing clothes and a hat. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.106.124.67 (talk) 01:03, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
It's not really Hiss, it's Kaa because I didn't see any clothes or a hat on him at all. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.178.62.166 (talk) 12:44, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
The character does not even look anything like a snake. It's not him.
That kinda looks more like Terrytoons' Gandy Goose because he's wearing a sailor hat and clothes. His head is briefly seen behind his eyes and his neck can be seen. Although his beak is supposed to be long like in his cartoons from the 1940's. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:584:C300:E41:9881:91E7:9CFD:55C7 (talk) 01:21, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
Cheshire Cat
[edit]I could'nt find Cheshire Cat in the final scene.Where is he?
- Cheshire Cat is seen briefly behind Bugs Bunny's ears during the final scene when the Toons jump back in shock after Roger gives Eddie the handbuzzer. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.237.229.67 (talk) 05:01, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
- He is actually riding benny. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.148.43.204 (talk) 17:26, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
One fat weasel, four slim?
[edit]In the "Toon Patrol" section, when giving the bio on Stupid, it mentions "He is overweight, while the other weasels are slim". Now, I've seen the film a number of times this summer, and while Stupid is by far the largest of the weasels, it seems that Greasy has also developed a bit of excess weight on his belly. Should this be mentioned? Mess around with the guy in shades all you like - don't mess around with the girl in gloves! (talk) 09:19, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
???
[edit]Is it me or was Bo Peep from Toy Story mentioned by Eddie's bully Angelo?
- That doesn't count because of three reasons:
- #1- the list does not feature the characters that are mentioned in the film.
- #2- Bo Peep could be any cartoon character of that name.
- #3- Toy Story was released seven years after Who Framed Roger Rabbit —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.237.229.67 (talk) 03:57, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
Wheezy has a girl or boy voice?
[edit]Whezy has a girl actor but in the film he's says Lets go! in a boy voice this is strange if he has a girl voice actor shoudn't his voice sound like a girl this should be written but nobody could do it becuase of that stupid safety program.
- Wheezy is voiced by June Foray, who is reknowned for her talent in throwing her voice. I'm sure she can easily make her voice sound masculine if she wants to. But I didn't think the character ever actually spoke, I thought he only laughed or coughed. Mess around with the guy in shades all you like - don't mess around with the girl in gloves! (talk) 08:29, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
Created disambiguatiuon page
[edit]{{editsemiprotected}} "Roger Rabbit" has several meanings (mostly derivative but nevertheless). Since the film character is clearly the primary topic, I propose using:
{{redirect|Roger Rabbit}}
at the head of the page to notify users of its existence. As a new user, I cannot edit this semi-protected page. Please could someone add it (otherwise I will do so in 4 days). Thanks. --MegaSloth (talk) 16:14, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
- Good call. Skomorokh, barbarian 20:58, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
=( ?
[edit]Was that female cow that was eating the script Elsie the Cow? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.26.53.243 (talk) 22:34, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
Brer Rabbit?
[edit]I've watched the movie ten times and I can't find Brer Rabbit. Where is he?
- Brer Rabbit is seen briefly hopping through the Toontown street when Eddie crashes into the the Acme Dumptruck.
In the actual film, it's actually Goofy on a pogo stick. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.178.62.133 (talk) 16:42, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
But he does appear in the final scene amongst the crowd of Toons though. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.54.206.236 (talk) 00:58, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
Brer Rabbit is not in Who Framed Roger Rabbit. I have seen the film a hundred times and looked every where at the end when all the toons are in the ACME factory. People clam he appears at the end however you can spot Brer Rabbit a mile away and he is not in the film at all. No head shot, no brief cameo, no nothing. So no he is not in the film. You are right though that that is Goofy on the pogo stick and not Brer Rabbit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fuzzk1 (talk • contribs) 04:20, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
Mouse Man?
[edit]Is the shilouette on the Marvin Acme factory's wall Mouse Man from The Great Piggy Bank Robbery? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.26.53.243 (talk) 23:05, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
???
[edit]I wonder which new batch of cartoon characters will appear in Roger Rabbit 2? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.211.252.37 (talk) 11:03, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
Most likely characters that didn't appear in the first film in example; Tom & Jerry, Popeye, Superman (1940's), Little Lulu and Casper the Friendly Ghost although it would be great if we had another scene with Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny, Donald Duck and Daffy Duck.
Flaps the Vulture
[edit]I don't see any Flaps the Vulture. I know he's in the final scene, but where is he? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4848842 (talk) 21:06, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
- If you look closely at the forming wall of toons singing "Smile, Darn Ya, Smile!", look very closely on the left next to Cyril Proudbottom and from there you can see a brief head view of Flaps the Vulture (the vulture with the blonde hair that appeared with the other vultures) from The Jungle Book.
Mama Bear article
[edit]Why did you delete the Mama Bear of the Three Bears article from the page? You know I am going back to put it you know. If you want to find out where she is here is the following information... If you look after Roger Rabbit shakes Eddie Valiant's hand with the hand buzzer and all the toons gasp in shock, right next to the left neck of Joe Giraffe, one of the background characters, the bear with the blue hat bears resemblance to Mama Bear. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.211.252.37 (talk) 19:30, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
I think your right. But this is why Wikipedia prefers reliable sources. Jhenderson777 (talk) 20:36, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
Mama Bear is not in Who Framed Roger Rabbit. Your making an assumption. Their is no facts or you did not hear anyone in interviews or in print say that was Mama Bear. You think it is Mama Bear when in reality it could be an unknown character the artists drew. There were many characters who had looked like other characters or the color of the them was changed to unknown reasons. For example Marc Anthony is originally brown where as in Who Framed Roger Rabbit he was gray. Another example would be the small bear with the brown hat jumping up and down when the news of Marvin Acme's will states everything goes to the toons. That bear looks like an animated Fozzie Bear but no one said that was actually indeed Fozzie Bear.
>:(
[edit]Why did you delete the frog from The Dodo and the Frog comic strip article? That frog in the beginning didn't even look like Michigan J. Frog but that frog from the comic strips so stop deleting that please? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.211.252.37 (talk) 21:40, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, because he does sport the top hat with the red band around it and the green polka dots around his body just like the comics he is in. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.211.252.37 (talk) 14:50, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
- And the frog's name is Fennimore if you people wanted to know. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.57.135.236 (talk) 15:27, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
Deloris
[edit]You're missing a major character. Where's Deloris, Eddie Valiant's love interest. Jhenderson777 (talk) 20:13, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
- Don't worry, they already put it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.176.152.44 (talk) 00:02, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
- Yeah that was me finally doing it ;) − Jhenderson 777 23:47, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
Wally Walrus?
[edit]I couldn't find Wally Walrus. Can you please tell me where he is? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.176.152.44 (talk) 00:06, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
Wally Walrus was not in Who Framed Roger Rabbit.
Actually, he is there. I just could not find him at first due to bad eyesight. After Roger shakes Eddie's hand with the hand buzzer, when it shows all the toons gasping in shock, in the right hand corner, wedged between Marc Antony and B'rer Bear, there is a thin brown triangular head with oval shaped eyes, a red nose and a brown moustache that is seen between them. That character is Wally Walrus. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.57.135.236 (talk) 15:13, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
This whole page is messed up....charters listed on this page; when they were did not exist yet...or were created in 1988
[edit]There are a bunch of charters listed here on this page that were in the movie, but yet half of these charters listed were not ever created yet, this who page needs a big clean up..... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.244.254.20 (talk) 01:06, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
- – Looks like someone fixed it all up! It was User:66.176.152.44 who added all the fake names. --96.244.254.20 (talk) 04:59, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
Resolved
Asterisk
[edit]Can anyone tell me why there is an asterisk (*) after a number of names? It's not explained in the article. Valley2city‽ 03:33, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
- If you look in the page history it says that (someone must of removed this text):
- Note: *denotes anachronisms; these characters (or, in the cases of characters such as Tinker Bell and Marvin the Martian, the animated versions :of them that appear in the film) were created and/or first appeared after 1947. But as screenplay writer Peter S. Seaman said, "The aim was :entertainment, not animation history." There were a few notable Golden Age characters such as Popeye and Tom and Jerry missing from the movie :due to legal copyright issues.
Elmer Fudd in Roger Rabbit
[edit]If you watch the final scene of the movie, after the Toons enter the Acme Factory and right after Roger shakes hands with Eddie with the hand buzzer, they cut to the crowd of Toons gasping. On the far left of the screen, between the Singing Harp and the clown you can clearly see Elmer Fudd's bulbous head and hunter's cap in the background right between them. I tried to show this with a screenshot and tried to submit it to the Elmer Fudd article but they wouldn't let me because it was a screenshot lifted from a YouTube video, it wasn't a great quality screenshot and I edited it by putting a circle around Elmer Fudd's head. He IS in the movie at the end - I kept trying to verify this with not only a screenshot but with other sources. Why does someone keep trying to delete Elmer Fudd's name from the list of Roger Rabbit cameos? Mavericker (talk) 14:49, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
- Please see User talk:Bkell/January 2010 through July 2011#Uploading a screenshot from Who Framed Roger Rabbit to the Elmer Fudd article and Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2011 January 17#File:Cropped roger rabbit elmer fudd screen shot highlighted.jpg for previous discussion about this topic. —Bkell (talk) 15:11, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
Yes, those two links explain why the screenshot was deleted. That was a bad quality screenshot anyway, I don't really care about that. That doesn't explain why someone keeps trying to take Elmer Fudd's name off the list of Toons that cameoed in the movie. There are many sources that state Elmer Fudd was in the movie. When I went to the Elmer Fudd article and tried to mention he camoed in Roger Rabbit they kept deleting it, and I tried to cite sources to verify that Elmer Fudd cameoed in the movie this they deleted those too - they either claimed the sources I had weren't original or not good enough. Other articles about characters that cameoed in the movie simply state they had a cameo in the movie or appeared with other characters in the final scene of the movie, or something along these lines. Did they need documentation to verify that for those articles? Mavericker (talk) 09:50, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
Hello Bkell, how are you? I have not heard for you in a while - I assume you are either away or of taking care of more important things. I hope I am not bothering you, but did you see the questions and comments I left for you on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Bkell/January_2010_through_July_2011#Uploading_a_screenshot_from_Who_Framed_Roger_Rabbit_to_the_Elmer_Fudd_article and on your current talk page? Please let me know- thank you. Mavericker (talk) 21:02, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
Pepé Le Pew, Tasmanian Devil, Witch Hazel, Beaky Buzzard, Cecil Turtle, Granny, and Gossamer
[edit]Some sources say these Looney Tunes characters cameoed in Roger Rabbit and most others don't. If they did cameo in the movie then where did they appear? I watched the film many times and never noticed them. Please help. Mavericker (talk) 15:40, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
- Well, there is one scene where I seemed to have spotted Tasmanian Devil/Taz. If you watch when all the toons are singing "Smile, Darn Ya, Smile" and at the part where it goes to a back view of all of them, right on the middle left hand corner next to Ferdinand the bull, there is a furry brown character with brown horns on top of his head. That character could be Taz.
I'd have to watch that again. What about Pepé Le Pew? Was he in it or was there a skunk that looked something like him in it?
Was that Witch Hazel from Looney Tunes that appeared at the end?
Was Beaky Buzzard in the film or not in the film?
Was Cecil Turtle at the Maroon Cartoon Studio lot?
Where is Granny in the film?
Was Gossamer in this film?
- No, the character with the brown horns on his head that appeared in the end on the middle left hand corner next to Ferdinand The Bull was not Taz. It is just a brown cartoon cow character. (Note: The Tasmanian Devil was planned to appear in the film, but was later dropped for unknown reasons. Also, the Tasmanian Devil/Taz was created in the mid 1950's/1954 and the film took place in the late 1940's/1947.)
- There is a skunk that resembles Pepe Le Pew at the ending scene, but that is just Flower from Disney's Bambi. (Note: Pepe Le Pew was planned to have a cameo appearance in the film, but was dropped for unknown reasons.)
- Witch Hazel (Warner Bros./Looney Tunes) made a cameo in the deleted scene "Pig Head". She can be seen flying around with beezlebub in the night sky of Toontown while doing her wickedly witch laugh. She is then struck by lightning from the cloud and falls to the ground, resulting to stopping her wickedly witch laugh. (Note: There is a witch that resembles Witch Hazel (Warner Bros./Looney Tunes) at the ending scene when the toons are singing "Smile, Darn Ya, Smile", but that was Disney's Witch Hazel from the 1952 Donald Duck short "Trick Or Treat".)
- Beaky Buzzard was not in the film. (Note: For some reason, Beaky Buzzard was not in Who Framed Roger Rabbit, as he appeared in the early 1940's/1942 in the Bugs Bunny short "Bugs Bunny Gets The Boid". There is a buzzard at the ending scene with the other toons, but that was Disney's Ben Buzzard. Beaky Buzzard's cameo was planned to appear in the film, but was dropped for unknown reasons.)
- Cecil Turtle was not in the film. (Note: For some reason, Cecil Turtle was not in Who Framed Roger Rabbit, as he appeared in the early 1940's/1941 in the Bugs Bunny short "Tortoise Beats Hare". There is a turtle at the beginning scene in the maroon cartoon studio lot, but that was Disney's Toby Tortoise. Cecil Turtle's cameo was planned to appear in the film, but was dropped for unknown reasons.)
- Granny was mentioned in one scene, but does not appear in the film herself. (Note: Granny was created in the very-early 1950's/1950 and the film took place in the late 1940's/1947.)
- Gossamer was not in the film. (Note: The filmmakers didn't say anything about Gossamer's cameo in the film. For some reason, Gossamer was not in the film, as he was created in the mid 1940's/1946. Probably because he was too tall and too scary for Eddie Valiant.)
- Where? I'm not seeing Flower's cameo in the movie? --MaxietheFoxWiki (talk) 03:37, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
Did anyone else notice Elmer Fudd's cameo appearance in Roger Rabbit?
[edit]Am I the only person who noticed Elmer Fudd in the crowd of Toons in the final scene of he movie? As I said, right after Roger shakes Eddie's hand with a hand buzzer, they cut to the crowd of Toons gasping, and if you look at the far left, right between The Singing Harp and Koko the Clown you can clearly see Elmer Fudd's face - his bulbous head and hunter's cap - he can be briefly seen peering through the crowd right behind them. Mavericker (talk) 17:32, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
Gus Goose
[edit]Where does Gus Goose appear in the movie? Mavericker (talk) 17:57, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
He is seen walking the streets of Toontown in the right hand corner and he sees all the toon people crossing by him. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.176.152.44 (talk) 00:29, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
Papa Panda and Andy Panda
[edit]These are both Walter Lantz characters - where did Papa Panda appear in this movie, and didn't Andy Panda appear on some Toontown poster in an alley? Mavericker (talk) 03:28, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
I don't think Andy Panda was in the movie, but a light-brown colored version of his father was in the film during the final scene. If you watch the film, you can see a brown bear with dark marks around his eyes and a small size black bowler hat, that character could be Papa Panda. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.176.152.44 (talk) 00:44, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
Adding Roger Rabbit references to the Elmer Fudd article
[edit]Hello. I added this to the Elmer Fudd page and I posted this on Bkell's page - I haven't heard anything back from either one. I put this here since it is related to characters making cameos in the movie and I don't know where else to put this.
I was digging around, looking for original sources that verify Elmer Fudd's appearance in Who Framed Roger Rabbit. I don't have a copy of the Encyclopedia of Walt Disney's Animated Characters, and I couldn't find any excerpts of that book online that feature the Who Framed Roger Rabbit entry with the list of characters who appearred in it as a verifiable source-if I could I would make copies of that entry and upload it or link to it and list that as a source.
I found three websites that verify Elmer Fudd's appearance in Who Framed Roger Rabbit:
http://www.thevalve.org/go/valve/article/the_hollywood_version_who_framed_roger_rabbit/
http://afrankangle.wordpress.com/2010/04/10/on-elmer-fudd/
I listed the cached file so you can see the highlighted terms- the person on here describes in detail where and when Elmer Fudd shows up towards the end of the film.
http://disney.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_cameos_in_Who_Framed_Roger_Rabbit
This is an official Disney Wikia- it lists Elmer Fudd as a character who cameoed in Roger Rabbit.
http://looneytunes.wikia.com/wiki/Who_Framed_Roger_Rabbit
This is from an official Looney Tunes Wikia - it states Elmer Fudd appears in Roger Rabbit.
I just found this:
http://toolooney.blogspot.com/
A script for a scene in which Elmer Fudd was set to show up at Marvin Acme's funeral, but was left out of the film.
This link:
http://www.toonopedia.com/elmer.htm
Even mentions Elmer Fudd's appearance in the film. I don't get why if this link is on the bottom if the Elmer Fudd page, why they wouldn't let me mention his cameo in the movie on the article.
I just found a screenshot of the scene from the movie I tried to upload:
http://thumbnails.truveo.com/0023/F3/98/F398A43692057C106F06A9_Large.jpg
It is a much better resolution pic-you can clearly see that the character peering through the crowd in the background on the left side of the screenshot behind the clown and between the clown and the Singing Harp with the bald, bulbous head and hunter's cap IS Elmer Fudd.
I recall trying to upload a screenshot and part of the reason why it was deleted because:
1. It was from Youtube
2. It wasn't a good quality pic
3. I drew a circle around Elmer Fudd's head on it
I know for a fact that the Encyclopedia of Walt Disney's Animated Characters, and Newsweek June 27, 1988 - WHO IS ROGER RABBIT? SPIELBERG AND DISNEY TAKE A $45 MILLION GAMBLE, VOLUME CXI, NO. 26
mentions Elmer Fudd's cameo in the movie.The Encyclopedia of Walt Disney's Animated Characters is a comprehensive guide to animated Disney films and officially lists all characters that appear in these films. If I can get a hold of the Disney Encyclopedia of Animated Characters and the Newsweek magazine I was talking about above I will cite the articles from both. I believe some other animation books also mention Elmer Fudd's appearance in the movie - if I can find those other animation books that mention Elmer Fudd's cameo in the movie I will post about it also.
I also found five more links to sites that mentioned Elmer Fudd appearing in the movie:
http://www.enotes.com/topic/Elmer_Fudd
http://new-savanna.blogspot.com/2010/05/hollywood-version-who-framed-roger.html
http://elmerfudd123.blogspot.com/
http://www.screened.com/who-framed-roger-rabbit/16-177345/
Are these sources that I have acceptable sources?
I don't own a DVD of Who Framed Roger Rabbit. If I were to make a screenshot from the DVD of Elmer Fudd in Roger Rabbit and showed a cropped portion of that image would that be an acceptible image to upload to the Elmer Fudd article? Or is that screenshot I found above acceptable?
Please let me know. Thank you. Mavericker (talk) 20:34, 17 November 2011 (UTC) .
Elmer Fudd scene in the streets of L.A.
[edit]I haven't seen the movie in a long time. Early in the film Valiant leaves his office after meeting with Maroon, and various Toons are seen walking around the streets, between the time he leaves his office to the time he hitches a ride on a trolley car. Was Elmer Fudd among the ones seen in the streets? I think I read somewhere that he had an appearance in the streets somewhere, I think a walk-in scene to Maroon Studios or around it - maybe that wasn't noticable unless you see the film in widescreen. Please help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mavericker (talk • contribs) 20:40, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
According to:
http://www.goldenagecartoons.com/forums/printthread.php?t=11670&pp=40&page=2
You can spot the "Wild Hare" version of Elmer Fudd walking around the Maroon Cartoon lot with Bugs Bunny. Elmer appears shortly before Bugs makes his appearance. You can see it if you are viewing the widescreen version. Mavericker (talk) 11:22, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
Elmer Fudd deleted from cameo list?
[edit]Again, why does someone keep trying to delete his name off the list of Toon cameos, especially when there are various sources that indicate he was in the movie? There are screenshots from the film that show he was in it- if you look at the screenshot like I one I have linked to above, http://thumbnails.truveo.com/0023/F3/98/F398A43692057C106F06A9_Large.jpg, you can clearly see his face in the crowd of Toons, between the Singing Harp and and the clown. Mavericker (talk) 20:43, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
If you look closely you can also notice his face in the background when the Toons start dancing. Mavericker (talk) 23:09, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
Fennimore Frog?
[edit]Fennimore Frog was listed as a Looney Tunes character who cameoed in the film. That is incorrect - there is no Looney Tunes character with that name. Mavericker (talk) 20:50, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
I know, this frog is a DC Comics character (which is owned by Warner Brothers, the studio which owns the Looney Tunes) from the old comic strip, known as "The Dodo and the Frog", that is the frog from the comic book, and he is not affiliated with the Looney Tunes, just DC Comics. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.176.152.44 (talk) 22:00, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
Which version of Popeye were the filmmakers going to use?
[edit]I know Steven Spielberg couldn't obtain the rights to use Popeye for the film because at the time the owners of Popeye wanted too much money for him, Olive Oyl and Bluto. Which version of Popeye were they planning on using - the Fleischer Studios version or the Paramount/Famous Studios version? I am curious. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mavericker (talk • contribs) 07:54, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
I don't really know, but I assume they were probably going to use the classic Fleischer version of Popeye for the film. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.176.152.44 (talk) 03:24, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
Because the film is took place in 1947, I think they were going to use the Famous Studios versions of Popeye, Olive Oyl, and Bluto. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.95.39.245 (talk) 21:38, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
Here's something from IMDb about the characters that were going to appear but didn't and it shows you that Spielberg wanted to use the Famous Studios versions of Popeye, Olive Oyl, and Bluto because the film is took place in 1947 and that Fleischer Studios got closed in 1942 and Famous Studios was opened also in 1942 (Note: For some reason, it doesn't mention the Terrytoons characters like Mighty Mouse and Heckle & Jeckle even though they were supposed to appear in Who Framed Roger Rabbit): Famous Studio/Paramount characters Popeye, Olive Oyl, Bluto, Superman, Little Lulu and Casper the Friendly Ghost, as well as Pat Sullivan's Felix the Cat and MGM's Tom & Jerry, were all scripted to appear in a scene revolving around Marvin Acme's funeral, but the rights to the characters could not be obtained in time, although a photo of Felix the Cat shaking hands with R.K. Maroon is seen in Maroon's office when he first hires Eddie. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.95.40.115 (talk) 18:55, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
Felix's face also appeared on a tunnel frame that leads to ToonTown. Mavericker (talk) 23:13, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
Pete Puma
[edit]Pete Puma is an old Looney Tunes character. Where does Pete Puma appear in the film? Some sources say he was in this movie. I've seen the movie many times and never noticed him. Please help. Mavericker (talk) 01:03, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
Chip & Dale
[edit]Why were they taken off the list? Mavericker (talk) 01:29, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
I don't think they were even in Who Framed Roger Rabbit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.95.40.115 (talk) 04:25, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
That is somewhat debatable - some people say the chipmunks that appeared at the end peering through the wall of the factory from outside were either Chip and Dale prototypes or either generic classical-style Disney chipmunks like thee ones you see in Snow White. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mavericker (talk • contribs) 03:35, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
They were scripted to appear at Acme's funeral but why were they dropped? Mavericker (talk) 08:18, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
The Shilouette
[edit]When I was watching the Who Framed Roger Rabbit film, during the part about Judge Doom, talking about his plans to destroy Toontown, I noticed uptop the wall on the left hand corner of the screen, there was a shadow of a cartoon on the wall. Was that Mouse Man from Looney Tunes episode, The Great Piggy Bank Robbery, or Lumpjaw from the Bongo the Bear segment of Fun and Fancy Free?
What is the deal with Heckle and Jeckle?
[edit]The Heckle and Jeckle article states they are in the movie in the end, and they are on the list of cameos. I looked on the list and it says they were supposed to appear in a scene at Marvin Acme's funeral- were they in the film or were they not? Mavericker (talk) 03:31, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
There are some crows that resemble Heckle & Jeckle. The crows that were on stage performing Jessica Rabbit's Song at the Ink & Paint Club kinda resembles Heckle and Jeckle, but those are the crows from the 1941 Disney's Dumbo. And the two crows that appeared at the end when the toons shock in gasp when Roger shakes Eddie's hand with the handbuzzer was Jim Crow and Specks also from Dumbo. He can be seen briefly between the purple-colored version of MGM's George and The Golden Harp (Specks can be briefly seen in the crowd of toons in the finale). So Heckle and Jeckle are not in Who Framed Roger Rabbit due to not obtaining the rights to use them.
The cowboy character
[edit]Here's something I always wanted to know, who's that cowboy with the brown hat, white shirt, blue pants, and black boots? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.95.40.115 (talk) 05:09, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
You mean the little cowboy with the goofy-looking grin that appeared at the end? I have wondered about that too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mavericker (talk • contribs) 12:09, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
- I don't know either what his name is. how about you? 173.166.39.49 (talk) 18:52, 22 June 2023 (UTC)
The cowboy kinda looks like the hamburglar, I'm not saying that the cowboy is the hamburglar, I'm just saying that the character looks like him.
Is anyone going to try to find this guy? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.140.78.74 (talk) 22:31, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
Gertie The Dinosaur and that giant mushroom-looking thing
[edit]And the end of the film there appeared to be what looks like a colored version of Gerite The Dinosaur standing around Marvin the Martian and Clarabelle Cow on the left-hand side of the screen as the Toons go back to Toontown. Who was that giant mushroom-looking character next to them, and why isn't Gertie the Dinosaur on the list of characters? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mavericker (talk • contribs) 12:24, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
Because that's actually not Gertie, it's a cartoon elephant with a pink sombrero on his head and the other character next to Clarabelle is a bipedal cartoon Hippopotamus with a white fedora on his head. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.57.135.236 (talk) 13:52, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
It could have also been Madame Upanova jumping into the left side of the screen in order to make way for the main characters and sticking her head out briefly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.57.135.236 (talk) 02:14, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
Okay - who is that hippo and elephant you are talking about? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mavericker (talk • contribs) 08:23, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
Flip the Frog?
[edit]Some people thought that a frog that appeared at the end was Fenimore Frog- could that have been Flip the Frog, the Ub Iwerks character? Mavericker (talk) 12:35, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
MGM's Spike and Wolfie
[edit]The list says Spike from the Droopy cartoons was in it, but aren't Spike and the Wolf from the Red Hot Riding Hood cartoon (Wolfie) the same character? Mavericker (talk) 12:36, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
The Sun
[edit]At first when I saw "Who Framed Roger Rabbit", I noticed that their was this cartoon sun character that was in the film in Toontown, that I did not have any idea who he is, but when I watched the Silly Symphonies cartoon called "Father Noah's Ark" and when I saw that sun in the cartoon two times, I realized that that character was the exact same sun from the cartoon.
Spike
[edit]Which Spike were they using, the one from the Tom and Jerry cartoons and the Spike and Tyke spin-off, or the one from the Droopy cartoons and Avery's non-Droopy cartoons? (Tex Avery's Spike wasn't introduced until 1949 by the way.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.95.40.115 (talk) 21:57, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
I think they are talking about the wolf, not the bulldog from the Tom and Jerry cartoons. People probably get Marc Antony from the Looney Tunes cartoons confused with Spike from the Tom and Jerry cartoons in this film, since he was colored grey. Mavericker (talk) 22:03, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Brer Rabbit
[edit]Why was Disney's Brer Rabbit taken off the list? Mavericker (talk) 10:34, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
Because that character is not Brer Rabbit that appeared in Toontown, it is just Goofy on a pogo stick.
The African-American character in the bar
[edit]What was the name of the African-American character who was talking to Valiant in the bar? He had a minor speaking part in the film but I think he is worth mentioning in the article. Please help. Mavericker (talk) 10:37, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
Peter Pan and Alice from Alice in Wonderland
[edit]Where were these characters mentioned in the film? Mavericker (talk) 22:00, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
I don't know but the only closest to Alice I can think of is the Allyson Wonderland graffiti on the wall of the restroom when Eddie tries to get away from Lena Hyena. As for Peter Pan, I have no idea. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.95.40.115 (talk) 18:40, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
Screwy Squirrel
[edit]Didn't he appear on a picture in Lena Hyena's bedroom? Mavericker (talk) 22:11, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
I think that's Screwy Squirrel, I don't know. The only thing I know about him is he was mentioned by Eddie's patron Angelo. Although the picture of him in Lena Hyena's Bedroom almost bears a resemblance to his appearance.
The deal with Pepe Le Pew's cameo
[edit]Some sources claim he was "dropped from the film for unknown reasons" - was he at least scripted to appear in the film? I have been trying to find info on this - please help. Mavericker (talk) 02:40, 18 January 2012 (UTC)
What was the deal with cameo loanouts of non-Disney characters?
[edit]I am curious. They had to get special permission of course to use characters not owned by Disney, but why was getting the rights to use them left up to Spielberg? Why didn't Disney approach other studios for loan-outs of their characters? Please help. Mavericker (talk) 02:43, 18 January 2012 (UTC)
Terrytoons (20th Century Studios)
[edit]I am still a little confused about this. The lion from the Tempermental Lion was the only Terrytoons character they could get for the film? Mavericker (talk) 18:39, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
I spotted The Timid Pig from the 1940 Terrytoons short called "How Wet Was My Ocean" in the final scene next to Koko the Clown and the Singing Harp. So The Temperamental Lion wasn't the only Terrytoon that appeared in the film. Also, someone apparently spotted Gandy Goose in the finale as well. Joey108 (talk) 13:25, 1 June, 2018 (UTC)
I just have one question though, where does Gandy Goose appear at the ending of Who Framed Roger Rabbit? I also spotted The Timid Pig from the 1940 Terrytoons short "How Wet Was My Ocean" and The Lion from The Temperamental Lion, but I have not spotted Gandy Goose.
Some sources say that Gandy Goose appeared next to the Temperamental Lion, Clarabelle Cow, and the hippo who was wearing Johnny Fedora when the toons are singing "Smile, Darn Ya, Smile". Though his appearance was colored orange (which was supposed to be white), and he doesn't have the sailor hat he normally wears (only red hair) and I didn't see his arms or legs. I also didn't see his head and his eyes are on his red hair (his beak is good though). I'm so confused about this.
I think I might have spotted him. At the end, where Bugs Bunny speaks, there is this light blue bird next to Peter from the 1946 Make Mine Music short, that could be him. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.7.9.241 (talk) 01:37, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
Yes, I think your're right, he kinda looks like him.
But did you see the sailor hat that he normally wears? I'd had to watch the end a lot of times and I didn't see it. Maybe he made a brief head shot cameo in the crowd of toons (He could be wearing the sailor hat).
Actually, I think I've found another character that could be him. After the train runs over the vat of dip, a pig and bird could be seen driving a handrail car, the bird bears some resemblance to the appearance of Gandy Goose without his sailor hat. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 40.142.130.99 (talk) 14:34, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
I think I've might have found him. At the end, after Roger shakes Eddie's hand with the handbuzzer, and when it shows the toons gasp in shock, right between Sylvester and The Light Blue Bird, there is a character wearing a sailor hat and cloths, that could be him. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:584:C001:857A:5C74:D777:215A:914F (talk) 23:00, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
I think at the end when the toons are singing "Smile, Darn Ya, Smile", you can briefly see his orange arms and legs, and his tail can be briefly seen behind him. Let me know if anyone has spotted him. In the final scene, when the toons are singing "Smile, Darn Ya, Smile", there is an orange bird next to Clarabelle Cow, the Temperamental Lion, and the toon hippo wearing Johnny Fedora resembling him. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:584:C001:857A:C10F:2F76:AC8A:90CF (talk) 03:46, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
Sourpuss was mentioned when Roger asks Eddie about his brother's incident. Though he didn't made a cameo appearance in the film.
(Note: The filmmakers couldn't obtain the rights to use most of the other Terrytoons Characters like Mighty Mouse, Heckle & Jeckle, Dinky Duck, and Farmer Al Falfa.)
Foghorn Leghorn
[edit]I have read somewhere Foghorn Leghorn was voiced by Joe Alaskey in part of the film - when did he have a speaking part? I know there was a scene that was cut fro the film in which Foghorn was supposed to be giving a eulogy at Marvin Acme's funeral- please help.Mavericker (talk) 03:21, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
Mac and Tosh (Goofy Gophers)
[edit]Why were they taken off the list? Mavericker (talk) 08:32, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
I don't think they were even in Who Framed Roger Rabbit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.95.40.115 (talk) 18:55, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
I'd have to check again- they are supposed to appear peering out of the wall after the train hits the Dip machine near the end of the movie. Mavericker (talk) 10:40, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
Wally Walrus
[edit]Where does Wally Walrus, the character from the old Walter Lantz Woody Woodpecker cartoons appear in the film? I looked at the end of the film - someone had said he appears between Brer Bear and Marc Antony in the crowd of toons scene, but I did not notice him. Please help. Mavericker (talk) 11:22, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
Like I said, at the part after Roger shakes Eddie's hand with the handbuzzer, and when it shows the crowd of toons gasping in shock, you can see a thin triangular light brown head, with oval-shaped eyes and a circular bright red nose. That character you can make out from between those two in the top right hand corner is Wally Walrus. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.57.135.236 (talk) 18:25, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
Okay- I see a redish-brown creature with bushy eyebrows peering between Brer Bear and Marc Antony- that must be what you are talking about. Mavericker (talk) 11:16, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
Characters from "Cats Don't Dance" (1997)
[edit]Why are the characters from Cats Don't Dance in the list of cameos in Who Framed Roger Rabbit section? I mean come on. Cats Don't Dance was made in 1997, way after the year of which the film took place, so why are they in there?
Thank you- I was going to ask the same thing. Mavericker (talk) 10:16, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
Yeah, and also Who Framed Roger Rabbit came out in 1988 and Cats Don't Dance came out in 1997 and the film (Cats Don't Dance) didn't exist yet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.95.38.237 (talk) 00:38, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
Elmer Fudd in the unused funeral scene and outside the Maroon Cartoon lot
[edit]I found this tidbit of info that helps further verify Elmer Fudd's appearance in the movie. Besides the brief cameo he has at the end (and possibly early in the film walking around in the streets on LA), Elmer Fudd was scripted to appear as one of the pallbearers to Marvin Acme's funeral, but the funeral scene was dropped from the movie:
http://www.historyforsale.com/html/printfriendly.asp?documentid=172744
The script was written and signed by Mel Blanc. Foghorn Leghorn, Yosemite Sam, Bugs Bunny and Mickey Mouse were also set to appear.
I want to share this on the Elmer Fudd article and the main Roger Rabbit article. Mavericker (talk) 11:44, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
According to: http://www.goldenagecartoons.com/forums/printthread.php?t=11670&pp=40&page=2 You can spot the "Wild Hare" version of Elmer Fudd walking around the Maroon Cartoon lot with Bugs Bunny. Elmer appears shortly before Bugs makes his appearance. You can see it if you are viewing the widescreen version. Mavericker (talk) 11:23, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
Who is that black-and-white character in beginning of the film?
[edit]I was watching the beginning of the film, and before it cuts to Eddie catching a ride on a trolley car, you see Bugs Bunny, Toby Tortoise walking up the street and some black-and-white character walking up next to them on the Maroon Cartoon studio lot - who is that other character? It looked like a bird of some sort. Mavericker (talk) 10:47, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
It's Cock o' the walk from Disney — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.140.76.127 (talk) 19:18, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
Koko The Clown
[edit]I know the film featured cameos by modified versions of characters, but why was Koko the Clown hatless in this? Also, why was he wearing a greenish and white costume in the beginning of he film and an orange and white one at the end- or was that two different clowns? Mavericker (talk) 10:49, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
Not only that but Koko has no hair while the clown in this has Bozo-like hair. Maybe he's the lovechild of Koko and Bozo because he looks like Koko in the face but has Bozo's hair.
He has Koko's costume - it must be Koko. Mavericker (talk) 02:42, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
Black-and-White prototype version of Mickey Mouse?
[edit]Right before Eddie Valiant hops on the trolley tram, you see a black-and-white character walking around on the left side of the street. Was that a Black-and-White version of Mickey Mouse? Mavericker (talk) 11:01, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
Johnny Fedora
[edit]The reason I put Johnny Fedora from Make Mine Music on the list of cameos is because if you look closely at the cartoon hippo at the right hand corner of the screen of the forming toon wall during the final scene when they sing "Smile Darn Ya Smile", look uptop that hippo's head, and there is a white and black banded fedora uptop his head. That character is Johnny Fedora. He is also in the left hand corner of the screen in a back view with the other toons. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.57.135.236 (talk) 19:18, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
Why were Chip & Dale dropped from the film?
[edit]According to:
They were set to appear at Acme's funeral but why were they dropped from the final movie? Mavericker (talk) 20:05, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
Pete Puma, Michigan J. Frog, Goofy Gophers, Claude Cat, Hubie & Bertie, Hippety Hopper, and Gracie the Fighting Kangaroo
[edit]I have watched the film Who Framed Roger Rabbit, and I have not spotted any of these Looney Tunes characters in the movie. There's a green spotted frog at the beginning of the film wearing a derby, but I doubt that is Michigan J. Frog, but Michigan doesn't wear a derby, he wears a top hat. I looked for the Goofy Gophers at the part where they are supposed to be peering out of the wall that leads to Toontown alongside Chip & Dale. I didn't see them. I looked for Pete Puma, I have not seen him either. I looked for Claude Cat, I have not seen him too. I looked for Hubie & Bertie, I have not seen them too. I looked for Hippety Hopper, I have not seen him either. I looked for Gracie the Fighting Kangaroo, I have not seen her. Where are these characters seen in the film? If they aren't in it, why were they put back on the list? Please help. Mavericker (talk) 20:35, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
These characters that appeared and/or not appeared are on the list:
- The frog that resembles Michigan J. Frog at the beginning of the film was Fennimore Frog from the old comic strip "The Dodo and The Frog" which is owned by DC Comics. (Note: Michigan J. Frog was created in the mid 1950's/1955.)
- Pete Puma was not in the film. (Note: The filmmakers tried to get him to appear, but they couldn't obtain the rights to the character.)
- The Goofy Gophers (Mac and Tosh) were not in the film either. (Note: For some reason, the Goofy Gophers did not appear in the film, as their first appearance was in the year where the film takes place (in the late 1940's/1947), and the part were they were peering out of the wall that leads to ToonTown were the various generic chipmunk characters from Disney's 1937 Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs.)
- Claude Cat made a cameo in the deleted scene "Acme's Funeral". He appears with the other toons scared when Casper the Friendly Ghost appears at the funeral.
- Hubie & Bertie were not in the film. (Note: Hubie & Bertie were created in the early 1940's/1943. Kinda weird about why the filmmakers didn't include them on the character cameo list.)
- Hippety Hopper made a cameo in the deleted scene "Acme's Funeral". He appears with the other toons when Casper the Friendly Ghost appears at the funeral.
- Gracie made a cameo at the ending scene when the toons are singing "Smile, Darn Ya, Smile". She is colored light-brown in the film.
No Cinderella characters in the film?
[edit]I am curious - is there a reason why Disney didn't include any Cinderella characters in this film? Cinderella is a major Golden age Disney cartoon. Mavericker (talk) 16:58, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
- Because the film was set in 1947 and Cinderella was released in 1950? Trivialist (talk) 07:43, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
Even if that's true it doesn't explain why characters post-1947 appear in the film. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.95.56.37 (talk) 23:01, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
- Because the director or animators wanted to include them? Trivialist (talk) 18:44, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
Yes the film is set in 1947, Trivialist, but that didn't stop the filmmakers from including characters from Sleeping Beauty, Winnie the Pooh, The Jungle Book and some other Disney animated films and shorts that were made after 1947. The film was made to pay homage to the Golden Age of Hollywood cartoons from the which took place from the 20's to the early 60's. The screenwriters had said the goal of the film was entertainment, not animation history. There were a handful of characters that were created after 1947 that appeared in the film, not just Disney characters. The excuse that was often used was that these characters always lived in Toontown but hadn't appeared in cartoons yet. Perhaps they were performing in stage shows - that would explain why the guy at the bar was making a reference to Chilly Willy and Screwy Squirrel.Mavericker (talk) 05:01, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
- I think you might be overthinking this. :) It's just a movie; it's not intended to be factually or historically rigorous. Trivialist (talk) 20:34, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
Exactly, Trivialist - as I said, the filmmakers were trying to pay homage to the Golden Age of Hollywood Cartoons, which took place between the 20's to the early 60's. It would have made sense to have Cinderella characters cameo. It was a Disney film - it was not like they had to pool their resources to use any Cinderella characters - they own Cinderella. It was probably just an oversight. I think they had all of these old Disney characters appearing to compensate for the characters they wanted to borrow from other studios but didn't. Mavericker (talk) 20:37, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
My guess about why no Cinderella characters appearing was that maybe the filmmakers didn't see any characters from the movie being "toony enough" or "worthy enough" to appear? Maybe they thought these characters would have gone unnoticed. Mavericker (talk) 20:55, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
That is probably why WD's Chip & Dale and WB's Goofy Gophers (Mac & Tosh) were dropped, that is assuming they were dropped - as they would have gone unnoticed. Mavericker (talk) 09:44, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
Buzz Buzzard
[edit]Buzz Buzzard is a character from the old Woody Woodpecker cartoons. Where does he appear in the film? I watched the end scene - that buzzard with the top hat that was on top of the rhino at the end was not Buzz Buzzard, it was Disney's Ben Buzzard, an obscure character from an old Donald Duck short. The Buzz Buzzard article states Buzz was walking around the Maroon Cartoon studio lot. Someone had said he appears walking around the Maroon Cartoon studio lot somewhere around the beginning of the film. Does anyone else agree with that? If that is wrong why is it in the Buzz Buzzard article?
I have not spotted him. Can someone please help with this? Please help. Mavericker (talk) 05:04, 4 March 2012
No, that was Cock o' The Walk from Disney.
I don't think Buzz Buzzard is in Who Framed Roger Rabbit.
Perhaps the filmmakers couldn't obtain the rights to use him.
Casey Jr.
[edit]Where's Casey Jr. in Who Framed Roger Rabbit? I don't see him anywhere in the film. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.95.56.37 (talk) 22:57, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
He is the toon train on the upper left hand corner of the screen next to Marvin the Martian, the Penguin Waiter, and Sylvester as they are forming the toon wall while Smile Darn Ya' Smile is finishing, and when Roger, Eddie, and the rest of the main characters and toons go to Toontown.
Making screenshots from the movie to add to other articles
[edit]Hi- I was told you can watch the movie in widescreen format on filmswoop.com. This is good to know in case anyone else wants to make screenshots from the film to verify cameos from certain characters to add to their articles here on Wikipedia. Of course in the widescreen version of this film you can see things you won't see in the regular versions of this movie. I just wanted to share that with you. Mavericker (talk) 21:09, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
Mary Poppins silhouette
[edit]Where does the Mary Poppins silhouette appear in the film? I have been trying to spot it- please help. Mavericker (talk) 21:11, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
It is briefly seen on one of the windows of the Toontown train that ran over the Dip Machine. There is a silhouette of her that is breifly shown on the train window holding a umbrella. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.57.135.236 (talk) 21:28, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
Why was this entry taken off the list? Mavericker (talk) 23:25, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
Probably because the train was too quick for people to catch a glimpse of her through the train window before it drove off. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.57.135.236 (talk) 11:42, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
Sorry if this sounds funny but why would a live-action character like Mary Poppins be in Toontown to begin with? Also, I can understand the penguin waiters being in the movie because animation director Richard Williams joked around saying that the Ink & Paint Club was the place where Walt Disney discovered the penguin waiters to use in his 1964 film Mary Poppins, but doesn't it seem strange that Julie Andrews' character Mary Poppins appears in this film, especially since the film Mary Poppins didn't come out until 1964? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.95.56.37 (talk) 18:37, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
I don't know that much about Mary Poppins- I always assumed the silhouette was an animated character.
Again, there were a handful of Golden Age cartoons characters from Disney and other studios that were created after 1947 that appeared in the film. The filmmakers wanted to pay homage to the Golden Age of Animation and the Golden Age of Animation lasted from the '20s to the early '60s. Mavericker (talk) 20:49, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
What's really interesting is that even thought it represents the 1920s to early-1960s (the early-1960s was 1960-1963), the penguin waiters and Piglet (he made a cameo appearance in 1966's Winnie the Pooh and the Honey Tree while he doesn't get a major role until 1968's Winnie the Pooh and the Blustery Day) were from the mid-1960s (1964-1966) while Kaa and Flaps were from the late-1960s (1967-1969). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.95.56.37 (talk) 22:33, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
I think the filmmakers were "stretching it"- Disney was still living at the time Winnie The Pooh and the Jungle Book was made and was personally involved with those films. Mavericker (talk) 09:33, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
In the film appear animated characters of the golden age of disney films (1937-1967). This stage ended at exactly the same time that the animated short films disappeared from theaters in 1967, for example: Paramount Pictures, MGM or Warner Bros. Probably the stage of the golden age of the American animation was from 1928 to 1967. Originally characters who appeared in animated series during this stage, such as Yakky Doodle, were scheduled to appear in the film. --80.30.93.55 (talk) 19:46, 25 March 2017 (UTC)
Tom & Jerry
[edit]The filmmakers tried to get them to appear in the film but ran into legal issues - what kind of legal issues did they run into? I am curious - I know some Golden Age characters the filmmakers wanted to use were either considered or dropped due to legal issues - please help. Mavericker (talk) 21:17, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
Yeah, and also Tom & Jerry and Droopy are owned by the same company, so why couldn't they use Tom & Jerry in the film if they can use Droopy? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.95.56.37 (talk) 18:26, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
That's a good question -
That makes as much sense as to why they could use Betty Boop but not Popeye?
I often wondered why they were able to get the rights to use all the major Looney Tunes characters except Pepe Le Pew? Some sources had claim the Tasmanian Devil appeared at the end- I'd have to watch the end again. Some sources had also claimed the Goofy Gophers appeared at the end- I watched the part where they were suppposed to be be peering out of the wall between the factory and Toontown at the end, alongside Chip & Dale- I did not see them. And those chipmunks that appeared were just various generic Disney woodland creatures like the ones used in Snow White.
My guess about Tom & Jerry is that the filmmakers probably couldn't obtain the rights to use them for this film? All the other MGM toons that cameoed along with Tex Avery characters, and they allowed them to be there since Roger was made in part as an homage to Tex Avery. Mavericker (talk) 20:45, 14 March 2012 (UTC) Mavericker (talk) 20:45, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
By the way, Popeye is owned by King Features while Betty Boop is owned by the Fleischer estate (even though King Features licenses Betty Boop for merchandise.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.95.56.37 (talk) 02:08, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
That may be, but it was the Fleischer version of Popeye they were trying to get for this film. Mavericker (talk) 08:31, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
Fleischer Studios got closed in 1942 and the film is took place in 1947 so they were going to use the Famous Studios version of Popeye (which Famous Studios was open in the same year Fleischer Studios got closed in). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.95.56.37 (talk) 19:49, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
Mama Bear
[edit]Where exactly does Mama Bear from the Looney Tunes cartoons appear in this movie? The Mama Bear article says she appeared in a brief head shot in the crowd of Toons - I tried to spot her and couldn't find her. Please help. Mavericker (talk) 21:23, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
The Great Prince, Faline, and Thumper
[edit]Where do these characters appear in the film? I only saw Bambi. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.95.56.37 (talk) 22:16, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
They all peek their heads out of the brick wall that leads to Toontown during the final scene of the film. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.57.135.236 (talk) 13:54, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
Where's Flower? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.96.246.229 (talk) 03:20, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
Peter Pan
[edit]Where is Peter Pan mentioned in the film? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.95.56.37 (talk) 22:55, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
I think somewhere in the middle of the film. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:584:C300:E41:DDE5:F324:F16E:6BB7 (talk) 02:14, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
Pepe Le Pew
[edit]I know this has been asked, but where does he appear in film, at all? Perhaps he isn't seen in the regular format of the film but does he appear in the widescreen of this film? Please help. Mavericker (talk) 08:31, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
Roger Rabbit 2?
[edit]People have been talking about a sequel for years, at least since the 1990's. Are they really coming out with one, and it is true they are going to feature cameos of Golden Age cartoon characters that didn't appear in the first one? Mavericker (talk) 09:41, 19 March 2012 (UTC))
Elmer Fudd deleted from cameo list?
[edit]Again, why was his name taken off the list when I specific about where he appearred? Mavericker (talk) 16:15, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
Wally Walrus deleted from list?
[edit]Why was Wally Walrus' name taken off the list? Mavericker (talk) 17:56, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
I know. I was clearly specific about his cameo appearance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.57.135.236 (talk) 20:21, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
They keep talking Elmer Fudd's name off the list when I was specific about his appearance too. Mavericker (talk) 10:32, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
- You have never provided reliable sources that back up your assertions, just vague generalities and personal opinion. This is not acceptable. MikeWazowski (talk) 14:19, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
I have been specific about where he could be spotted if you watch the film and I can make picture - quality screenshots to prove that. I haven't seen the widescreen version - I will make a screenshot from the scene as described from the GAC source to prove that too. That book and magazine I was talking about are reliable- they can be found on ebooks.google.com and I can give page numbers to the articles from those periodicals when I cite them as references. If I can find more periodicals about this I'll list them as references also. Mavericker (talk) 20:12, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
- What do you mean by "personal opinion"? What are you referring to, specifically? My comments about the film? Mavericker (talk) 09:12, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
- I've looked at the film frame by frame in the places you claim Fudd appears - he does not. Not even for a frame. It's time for you to stop with this. MikeWazowski (talk) 14:11, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
No, that is not true Mike - you aren't looking close enough, or in the right spot. It is obvious you didn't notice it right away, and you have overlooked it. Look at the part at the end right after Roger and Eddie shake hands. Right after the crowd gasp in shock you can see Elmer's face and cap in the crowd RIGHT between the Singing Harp and Koko the clown on the left side of the screen. That bulbous head with the brown hunter's cap is Elmer Fudd. That is a brief headshot of Elmer Fudd in that scene. I just made a screenshot to show you that you are wrong. I have seen the film numerous times to notice that. You are wrong. Have you seen the WIDESCREEN version of the film? I have not even looked at that yet. That GAC source claims Fudd was walking around the Maroon Cartoon studio lot early in the film, in the widescreen version. There is a movie site I can go to I was told that shows the widescreen version of this film online- I will watch that on there and make screengrabs from that scene I talked about from early in the movie when I have the time to.
Look at this quick screenshot that I JUST MADE: http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s36/MAvericker/rogerrabbitscreenshot.jpg
You can see Elmer's face in the background RIGHT between the Singing Harp and Koko the Clown in that pic. I was planning on waiting and dealing with all of this when I had more time but there is some physical proof.
I took that same pic and drew a circle around Elmer's head so you can see it: http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s36/MAvericker/rogerrabbitscreenshot-2-1.jpg
You can see his head, his brown nose and hunter's cap - that is the "Wild Hare" version of Elmer Fudd.
Mike, there is NO WAY you can miss that. Mavericker (talk) 05:34, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
- What I see is something you want to believe is Elmer Fudd. MikeWazowski (talk) 13:45, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
Pardon me for sounding so abrupt. Mike, it is obvious by your response that you couldn't clearly make out if that is Fudd or not based on these two images- that is the issue I had with the pics I tried to use before. Who else could that be if that's not Elmer? How do you know that isn't Elmer? Have you looked closely at that character? Whether that is blurry or not, that certainly looks like Fudd - I know what Fudd looks like. He has a bulbous head and a brown cap on like the one Elmer Fudd usually wears. The "A Wild Hare" version of Elmer Fudd fits that description I gave above- brown nose, bulbous head and brown hunters' cap. You can see his brown nose. I still do not agree and for some reason when you claim to have viewed the film in all those parts I described I don't believe you - have you looked closely at that character I highlighted in the crowd scene? Have you watched the widescreen version of the film? It is obvious you haven't watched the film that closely and if you have watched the film as you have claimed you are still overlooking this. Why would someone on the GAC (Golden Age Cartoon forums) site say Fudd can be spotted early on in the film walking around the Maroon Cartoon lot in the widescreen version of the movie if it isn't true? That person on the GAC site was very specific about where Fudd shows up in that scene early in the film, in the widescreen version. I am going to watch the widescreen version of the film on an online site and make screenshots to show this, and make better quality screenshots form the crowd scene again. Other users here would probably disagree with you. And you claiming to watch the film as you said doesn't mean what you said is true. You are incorrect about this character not appearing in the film.
The "A Wild Hare" version of Fudd looks like:
http://www.emmytvlegends.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Bugs-Bunny-300x217.png http://www.findingdulcinea.com/docroot/dulcinea/fd_images/news/on-this-day/July-August-08/On-this-Day--Bugs-Bunny-Makes-Debut/news/0/image.jpg http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j288/CritterCreek/ElmerFuddHunnieBunnie/ElmerFudd.jpg
That is the old '40s version of Fudd - the very first official version of Fudd.
Some books and periodicals, as I said, mention Fudd appearing in WFRR. I have found actual sources with page numbers and I want to post this stuff on the Elmer Fudd article. Periodicals like Newsweek wouldn't lie about things like this. They would not put it in a book about films and cartoons if it wasn't true.
The Special Edition DVD of this movie comes with commentary from the screenwriters themselves giving an official run-down of who's who in the film - it is one of the extra features that comes with the DVD. Unfortunately, I don't own a copy of that.
I said those screenshots I made were quick ones - I rushed when I made those and as I said I am going to make some better quality ones later. I realize those are somewhat bad quality pics and those pics seem to be a bit too dark and somewhat blurry. You said you want reliable sources- I will get back to you on that. I still want to contribute here and on the Fudd article about this, but right now I have other more important things to deal with - I will come back to this later.
Another user described where Wally Walrus could be spotted- he is in the same scene. I am going to make a clearer quality pic to show that too.
Mavericker (talk) 15:51, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
- Mavericker, what you are doing (trying to deduce characters from the film itself) is original research, which is not allowed. The information has to come from a reputable source -- for example, a book or newspaper article reporting that Such-and-Such Character appeared in the movie. Individual Wikipedia contributors are not necessarily reliable sources. :) Trivialist (talk) 21:34, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
I am aware of that, Trivialist- I am coming back to this when I have the time. Mavericker (talk) 21:56, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
Edit request on 25 March 2012
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Delete phrase "Learnt this dance from his friend Jo Smart" (uncited) as apparent vandalism. 69.143.252.250 (talk) 15:02, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
Done Not sure if it's vandalism or not, but I removed it as uncited. Thanks! — Jess· Δ♥ 06:30, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
Why was Papa Panda taken of the list?
[edit]Papa Panda is character from Walter Lantz. The film featured cameos of modified versions of characters, and some were painted different colors then the way they usually appeared. That bear that appeared at the end with patches around the eyes and wearing a derby bears a resemblance to Papa Panda. Why was that taken off the list? Mavericker (talk) 16:13, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
- If a character only bears a resemblance to another character, it is not the original character. That is why it was removed. Why do you have such a problem understanding this basic fact? MikeWazowski (talk) 16:53, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
I don't - that was an errant question. This question was a mistake. I was a bit curious - others were trying to ask about this too.Mavericker (talk) 22:34, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
Benny Burro
[edit]Anybody know that the cartoon donkey that was walking into the Maroon Cartoons Studio lot right next to Looney Tunes' Yoyo Dodo when Eddie walked out was Barney Bear's sidekick from "The Prospecting Bear", Benny Burro? Joey108 (talk) 8:18, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
Jessica Rabbit photo
[edit]It's not acceptable to have a Roger Rabbit article without a Jessica Rabbit photo. Her image is iconic to the movie. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.156.60.53 (talk) 16:12, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
Gandy Goose
[edit]I couldn't find Gandy Goose in the final scene. Where is he? Bryangul2020 (talk) 23:53, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
Tasmanian Devil
[edit]How come Taz isn't in the film? I'm curious. Bryangul2020 (talk) 17:11, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
Spike the Bulldog
[edit]Does anybody know where Tom and Jerry's Spike the Bulldog is in Who Framed Roger Rabbit? The Disney Wiki states he's between Pete and Horace Horsecollar in the finale (likely as a police officer), but the only thing I spotted was a generic yellow dog officer who bears no resemblance to the character in question. The person who claimed Spike was in the finale might've confused him with Looney Tunes' Marc Anthony. If anybody can give me further insight on this or send me a picture, it would be appreciated. 71.112.191.141 (talk) 01:02, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
Aracuan Bird and Screwy Squirrel in the original storyboards of the Toontown scene
[edit]I've heard that in the original storyboards for the Toontown scene of the film, when Eddie goes to Toontown, Screwy Squirrel appears in a street drain and tells Eddie to get him out. After this, he slams Eddie with a manhole cap and goes bonkers. He later appears referencing one of his cartoons, which is Lonesome Lenny (1946). Another character that appeared in the original storyboards was the Aracuan Bird. He is seen after Eddie stuns Lena Hyena by making her run into a wall. So my question is: Why were these characters removed? I mean, I know a character resembling Screwy appears in a poster in Lena Hyena's bedroom. As for the Aracuan Bird, I have no idea. Perhaps it's because of complicated animation and expensive budget for the film. Bryangul2020 (talk) 01:30, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
Homer Pigeon
[edit]I couldn't find Homer Pigeon in the film. Where is he? MaxietheFoxWiki (talk) 01:32, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
- EDIT: Homer Pigeon isn't in the film. It's actually the animal pedestrians from The Tortoise and the Hare, why the filmmakers didn't include him on the character cameo list. MaxietheFoxWiki (talk) 07:10, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
Barney Bear
[edit]Does anyone know where Barney Bear is in the film? I thought a bear character that wears blue hat resembling him after the Toons react to Roger Rabbit's hand-buzzing trick. MaxietheFoxWiki (talk) 23:11, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure the bear character was Mama Bear from Looney Tunes without dress, between Foghorn Leghorn, Looey Lion and Joe Giraffe. --MaxietheFoxWiki (talk) 00:26, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
Thomas O'Malley
[edit]I can't find Thomas O'Malley from The Aristocats. Where is he as a silhouette? MaxietheFoxWiki (talk) 19:47, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
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