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::Brutal trimming, but I concur. -[[User:Leoaugust|Leoaugust]] ([[User talk:Leoaugust|talk]]) 05:29, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
::Brutal trimming, but I concur. -[[User:Leoaugust|Leoaugust]] ([[User talk:Leoaugust|talk]]) 05:29, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
:::I probably would have retained something about their involvement in the Kathputli affair, which was the only farrago of which I am aware that hit international headlines, but otherwise ok. - [[User:Sitush|Sitush]] ([[User talk:Sitush|talk]]) 08:11, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
:::I probably would have retained something about their involvement in the Kathputli affair, which was the only farrago of which I am aware that hit international headlines, but otherwise ok. - [[User:Sitush|Sitush]] ([[User talk:Sitush|talk]]) 08:11, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

Hi Sitush, we are not here for personal involvement in the page. By our personal involvement someone else may seek personal benefits. Such things must not be encouraged. we all are just contributing here our thoughts, idea and knowledge. This page seems to be a fight between Leoaugust and other editors with this Raheja Developer, it may be for their mutual gains and growth. My point of view is remove and delete the entire Raheja Developer page.

Apart from this if the contribution is unbiased must be encouraged everyone was new at initial stage. It is all that matters is his contribution <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Appmarch|Appmarch]] ([[User talk:Appmarch#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Appmarch|contribs]]) 09:46, 25 April 2017 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


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Revision as of 09:48, 25 April 2017

Improvements to the Raheja Atharva, Gurgaon section

The Raheja Atharva, Gurgaon is a bit of a mess, with outstanding cite requests, confused chronology and some issues tagged as needing clarification. Furthermore, it does not seem to take account of reports such as this, which appear to indicate that at least some measure of settlement has been achieved in the dispute(s). - Sitush (talk) 15:47, 18 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

And this book might be useful for the Kathputli section. It's usually a good thing to use reliable books rather than news sources, where possible. - Sitush (talk) 16:07, 18 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The issue of this link in "Hindustan Times" has been discussed earlier on the talk page, and no consensus was achieved on posting it. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Raheja_Developers&diff=next&oldid=724758602 -Leoaugust (talk) 17:10, 18 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. So has anything been settled or not? I can't recall the last time you provided anything about Raheja that was not detrimental to the image of the company, and yet the company, despite all the alleged issues, continues to operate. I know the property world is corrupt everywhere and that India is a country particularly susceptible to corruption, and I also know that Indian legal and other dispute resolution processes are long-winded beyond belief ... but nonetheless something doesn't ring true here. - Sitush (talk) 17:36, 18 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
No updates in the media. All that has been published are Raheja's ads, and sponsored articles in supplements like "HT Estates" & "Times Property." So, it is hard to bring anything on record into Wikipedia. This is a corrupt builder, and not very newsworthy. -Leoaugust (talk) 18:05, 18 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Ok. It's all very strange. - Sitush (talk) 18:28, 18 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

by above comment/ discussion it reveals that Leoaugust has conflict of Interest against Raheja Developer this is evident from his statement....This is a corrupt builder, and not very newsworthy.

Finally Raheja Developer got huge relief from Punjab and Haryana High Court Civil Writ Petition filed by Atharva Owners Weflare Association vs State of Haryana and others has been dismissed.... https://phhc.gov.in/enq_caseno.php?var1=CM&var2=4653-CWP&var3=2017 . The so called Atharva Owners Welfare Association had fear of dismissal of writ petition, they opted to withdrawn...

Like I said to you an hour or so ago, we can't use court documents. Stop it, please. We've got enough crap on this talk page without you adding more to it. If something is not directly related to improving the article and/or cannot in fact be used to improve it, there is no point raising it. - Sitush (talk) 18:28, 18 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

A balanced version...

I took my time and after evaluating all the sources and WP:WEIGHT(esp. in case of an article where almost all the major contributors have COI one-way or the other), I have heavily edited and trimmed the article. @Sitush and Leoaugust:--Take a look!Winged Blades Godric 03:52, 19 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I think it is ok. Thanks for doing that work. Jytdog (talk) 04:42, 19 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Brutal trimming, but I concur. -Leoaugust (talk) 05:29, 19 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I probably would have retained something about their involvement in the Kathputli affair, which was the only farrago of which I am aware that hit international headlines, but otherwise ok. - Sitush (talk) 08:11, 19 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Sitush, we are not here for personal involvement in the page. By our personal involvement someone else may seek personal benefits. Such things must not be encouraged. we all are just contributing here our thoughts, idea and knowledge. This page seems to be a fight between Leoaugust and other editors with this Raheja Developer, it may be for their mutual gains and growth. My point of view is remove and delete the entire Raheja Developer page.

Apart from this if the contribution is unbiased must be encouraged everyone was new at initial stage. It is all that matters is his contribution — Preceding unsigned comment added by Appmarch (talkcontribs) 09:46, 25 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

One of the things the alleged Raheja contributors have been raising of late is a desire for us to remove their trademarked logo. Now I know that the image was uploaded by someone who claimed to have permission from the company and whom our SPI determined to be pro-Raheja socks, some at least of whom were being paid, but I'm still a bit wary of their claim regarding permission. In any event, we don't actually need the logo - it is more of a courtesy thing to aid identification. Should we remove it and then request deletion of the file as it complies with WP:NFCC but is not in fact used?

This is nothing to do with the numerous threats and wild accusations that have been made. I am not worried about them but I am genuinely dubious regarding the status of the logo. - Sitush (talk) 13:43, 24 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment - then again, the entire point of NFCC is that we don't need permission? Or, at least, the WMF is satisfied that it can host images under the NFCC procedures, regardless of whether or not the uploader might have broken a law in India. I hate trying to work out what happens with images - it's all far too confusing for me. - Sitush (talk) 14:24, 24 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The comments of single-purpose and/or newly-registered accounts on this talk page are clearly unlikely to be worth consideration. - Sitush (talk) 09:05, 25 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

If it is evident from the clarifications of Raheja contributor that logo has been use without their permission same be deleted. Even if Raheja developers page has been create by same one with motive to defame and cause harm be deleted. The policy of the Wikipedia foundation is to share information. The platform is not for misuse and defame anyone — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rmsingh2000 (talkcontribs) 08:34, 25 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I do not agree with Sitush, violation of any law whether applicable in India or in any other country must not be allowed on Wikipedia platform. Any thing which has been edited or created without approvals must be deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rmsingh2000 (talkcontribs) 08:44, 25 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It is clear from the entire editings on this page that the page of Raheja Developer has been created just for misguiding public at large. Wikipedia is not for uploading day to day business activities of any organization. From all conversations on this talk page it is proved that logo has been used without permission be removed and deleted. What if the entire page of this Developer is removed. I am of view the entire page be removed this Raheja Developer must be using it for its marketing purposes — Preceding unsigned comment added by Appmarch (talkcontribs) 08:58, 25 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]