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::You have just been [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gotitbro&diff=prev&oldid=940039292 blocked] for your edit-warring in this article. Please quit this battleground attitude and make constructive edits when you return. [[User:Za-ari-masen|Za-ari-masen]] ([[User talk:Za-ari-masen|talk]]) 04:58, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
::You have just been [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Gotitbro&diff=prev&oldid=940039292 blocked] for your edit-warring in this article. Please quit this battleground attitude and make constructive edits when you return. [[User:Za-ari-masen|Za-ari-masen]] ([[User talk:Za-ari-masen|talk]]) 04:58, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
:::Banglapedia is used in majority of Bangladesh-related articles and even has a [[Template:Cite Banglapedia]] on Wikipedia. Bakarkhani originates from Eastern Bengal e.g. modern day Bangladesh, not India. I agree with Za-ari-masen and think that Gotitbro needs to stop edit-warring. [[User:UserNumber|UserNumber]] ([[User talk:UserNumber|talk]]) 13:54, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
:::Banglapedia is used in majority of Bangladesh-related articles and even has a [[Template:Cite Banglapedia]] on Wikipedia. Bakarkhani originates from Eastern Bengal e.g. modern day Bangladesh, not India. I agree with Za-ari-masen and think that Gotitbro needs to stop edit-warring. [[User:UserNumber|UserNumber]] ([[User talk:UserNumber|talk]]) 13:54, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
::::{{yo|Utcursch|El C|Huon|Gotitbro}} I just carefully reread the Banglapedia article again; ''nowhere'' does it say the origin is in Dhaka or present-day Bangladesh/East Bengal. [http://en.banglapedia.org/index.php?title=Bakorkhani Here is the link to the article], the first paragraph clearly states the following: [http://en.banglapedia.org/index.php?title=Bakorkhani "a food-product '''peculiar''' to Dhaka city... original home of this bread or biscuit is '''Afghanistan or beyond'''"]. Nowhere does it say the origin is Dhaka or Bangladesh/East Bengal. Also, the Times of India [https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Bakarkhani-only-a-sweet-memory-now/articleshow/45159577.cms? article], which Za-ari-masen removed from his version, states, the following: [https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Bakarkhani-only-a-sweet-memory-now/articleshow/45159577.cms? "There are a few new variants of the bakarkhani though, that trace their origin to '''Bangladesh and Kashmir''']. As you can observe, there is zero source for the sole claim of Dhaka or Bangladesh/East Bengal. What we know is, it is a dish inspired by Central Asian Muslim migrants to medieval India, just like [[General Tso's chicken]] is inspired by Chinese migrants to North America. The version that {{ping|Gotitbro}} reverted is the best version. (This also shows the problematic edits of Za-ari-masen, they use words like "preferred", "favorite" or "peculiar" and constructs it as origin to Dhaka or Bangladesh. As can be seen with [[chomchom]], the Banglapedia there only stated it was a [http://en.banglapedia.org/index.php?title=Sweetmeats '''favorite''' in Tangail], to use that as a statement to claim origin, thankfully {{ping|Utcursch}} caught that.) As you can see, Za-ari-masen is falsifying the sources. Please read the [http://en.banglapedia.org/index.php?title=Bakorkhani Banglapedia source on Bakorkhani] and [https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Bakarkhani-only-a-sweet-memory-now/articleshow/45159577.cms? Times of India article on Bakorkhani] and be the judge yourself. ([[Special:Contributions/96.240.28.30|96.240.28.30]] ([[User talk:96.240.28.30|talk]]) 18:44, 10 February 2020 (UTC))

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Recipes

Where are recipes Singh4455 (talk) 16:04, 3 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not a cookbook, so there shouldn't be any recipes in the article. Recipes can be posted to the Wikimeda Cookbook. Ibadibam (talk) 16:43, 3 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Unsourced POV pushing by Gotitbro

User:Gotitbro has been repeatedly reverting edits to restore his own preferred version that replaces "Bangladesh" with "India" throughout the article and has been removing reliable sources from Banglapedia by calling them unreliable. He has not provided a single source for his edits but pushing his POV repeatedly despite being explained in the edit summaries. Za-ari-masen (talk) 04:02, 10 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Za-ari-masen: Your problematic edits that conflate Bengal with Bangladesh have already been reverted by multiple editors including admins. To claim the exact thing your are doing and projecting that onto me highly is ridiculous. I don't need to provide source to revert clear POV which you are looking to brute force by engaging in highly disruptive editing on multiple articles. Gotitbro (talk) 04:31, 10 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Gotitbro, not only you have been discarding the reliable sources in the article but also rejecting the importance of providing a source for your edits, that in itself reflects your disruptive behaviour. You have been involved in a similar unsourced POV pushing in different articles with multiple users and have been doing so for a while now. I don't know where I have been warned by an admin as you are talking about, but I think it's high time an admin decision is imposed on you. Za-ari-masen (talk) 04:41, 10 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Za-ari-mase: Not sure where you are coming with your ridiculous allegations, all of which pretty seriously apply to yourself. Your similar edits were revrted on Shorshe Ilish by an admin who had already explained on the Talk page the dispute (nowhere do I say you were warned by an admin). If you are so smug about having me "done under" for my edits go ahead and report me, you probably won't come unscathed for you edits. Also you coatraking users more disposed to your edits is simply not done, you clearly do not want to engage in any discussion but brute force edits that cater to your liking. Gotitbro (talk) 04:50, 10 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
You have just been blocked for your edit-warring in this article. Please quit this battleground attitude and make constructive edits when you return. Za-ari-masen (talk) 04:58, 10 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Banglapedia is used in majority of Bangladesh-related articles and even has a Template:Cite Banglapedia on Wikipedia. Bakarkhani originates from Eastern Bengal e.g. modern day Bangladesh, not India. I agree with Za-ari-masen and think that Gotitbro needs to stop edit-warring. UserNumber (talk) 13:54, 10 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Utcursch, El C, Huon, and Gotitbro: I just carefully reread the Banglapedia article again; nowhere does it say the origin is in Dhaka or present-day Bangladesh/East Bengal. Here is the link to the article, the first paragraph clearly states the following: "a food-product peculiar to Dhaka city... original home of this bread or biscuit is Afghanistan or beyond". Nowhere does it say the origin is Dhaka or Bangladesh/East Bengal. Also, the Times of India article, which Za-ari-masen removed from his version, states, the following: "There are a few new variants of the bakarkhani though, that trace their origin to Bangladesh and Kashmir. As you can observe, there is zero source for the sole claim of Dhaka or Bangladesh/East Bengal. What we know is, it is a dish inspired by Central Asian Muslim migrants to medieval India, just like General Tso's chicken is inspired by Chinese migrants to North America. The version that @Gotitbro: reverted is the best version. (This also shows the problematic edits of Za-ari-masen, they use words like "preferred", "favorite" or "peculiar" and constructs it as origin to Dhaka or Bangladesh. As can be seen with chomchom, the Banglapedia there only stated it was a favorite in Tangail, to use that as a statement to claim origin, thankfully @Utcursch: caught that.) As you can see, Za-ari-masen is falsifying the sources. Please read the Banglapedia source on Bakorkhani and Times of India article on Bakorkhani and be the judge yourself. (96.240.28.30 (talk) 18:44, 10 February 2020 (UTC))[reply]