Talk:Greek love

Reduction to redirect without discussion.

I've rolled back a recent series of edit which lead to this article becoming a redirect and the blanking of the talk page and links to the archive. Such drastic steps need to follow process. If someone wants the page turned to a redirect, then afd or a merge proposal is the way to go.--Peter cohen (talk) 08:32, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Absolutely! And good luck with your research for this article, though I think the source you've come up with re Breen is probably just one more use of the term 'Greek Love'! Anyhow, I'm keeping out of it and only popped in to express support for your roll-back. Amphitryoniades (talk) 08:40, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Delete article and disambiguate

I think this article should be deleted as original research but we should have a disambiguation page titled 'Greek love', directing the reader to various articles covered by this broad term. There is no scholarly work giving an overview of the various uses of 'Greek Love' and, if we select any one use of the term, we are merely reinventing an article that already exists. Any support for this move? Any arguments against? (Please note: I have been involved in previous discussions about this article but under different user names) McZeus (talk) 23:04, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

I don't think the article should be deleted, and I don't see anything particularly original about it. It's a topic of intellectual history, and it's solidly sourced. I guess I'm not seeing grounds for deletion. I think it's illuminating to see how the significance of "Greek love" changes. Cynwolfe (talk) 02:20, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

The term 'Greek love' conflates many topics, covered for example by articles such as these:

• LGBT history
• Anal sex
• Prison sexuality
• Pederasty in ancient Greece
• Platonic love
• John Addington Symonds

Some of these articles don't even mention 'Greek love' and the info here would be more useful there. This article has a troubled history because 'Greek love' can be interpreted so many ways, as indicated by the links. Different sources use it in different contexts and original research is needed to correlate the various uses, their history and origins. The need for original scholarship/research was recognized when the article was first created. Look for example here at the first 3 entries on the talk page. McZeus (talk) 02:46, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

• Support change to disambiguation page. The term is used to mean various things, and after extensive research and talk page discussion over a long time, we still do not have any reliable sources directly defining the term. An example of the disparate uses is that modern dictionaries and slang dictionaries define it as a synonym for the act of anal sex, while some of the historical literature suggests it refers to a lofty or even spiritual form of affection that may not involve sexual activity at all. Unless there are reliable sources connecting the various uses, this requires disambiguation to avoid original research. --Jack-A-Roe (talk) 04:13, 3 November 2010 (UTC)