Talk:Iron Range

Requested move

Iron Range → Iron Range/Arrowhead. It is linked to from several pages as "Iron Range/Arrowhead" and I added information to complete the page as such. - ObsidianOP

• Oppose These are distinct regions of Minnesota and should have seperate articles. EdwinHJ | Talk 00:19, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
• Oppose for three reasons. One, as a lifelong Minnesotan, my experience has been that the Range is often called just that, or usually "Iron Range" in more formal discussion, and not commonly refered to as a hyphenated or slashed term with the Arrowhead. Two, both the Arrowhead and the Range are sizable regions with enough history, landscape, and culture to each have interesting articles. And three, a slash in a WP title is deprecated for technical reasons. Jonathunder 02:42, 2005 May 12 (UTC)
• Oppose. The use of "/" is depreciated. See Discussion below --Philip Baird Shearer 02:49, 12 May 2005 (UTC)

It was requested that this article be renamed but there was no consensus for it to be moved. violet/riga (t) 11:36, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

Discussion

• It's possible to divide Minnesota, like anywhere, into as many regions as one wants. I feel that together they are roughly on the same scale as the other regions the state has been divided into, as well as making a convenient geographic boundary. But, if the move doesn't pass, then I would be happy to create the new page using the content I already wrote. I'm kinda new at this so I do appreciate any help.

ObsidianOP 03:09, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

• The population is WAY off- it looks like you have included Duluth. Duluth is NOT part of the Range. The arrowhead thing is confusing everyone.

• For "The Iron Range" has a colloquial, local understanding but also a more general geographical understanding (appropriate to the larger Wikipedia project). The fact that many native Minnesotans equate "The Range" with the Mesabi is because the Mesabi is the largest by area and in iron production and the most populous of the four major iron ranges of Minnesota. However, it is legitimate, when considering "Iron Range" in general, to include a discussion of significant ranges outside the Mesabi: Cuyuna, Vermilion, and Gunflint, all of which are historically, culturally, and geologically significant. I propose that the (little) additional particular information contained in the Mesabi Range article be incorporated into the Iron Range article, and that the Mesabi Range page become a #REDIRECT page.Jerry picker 14:56, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

• The fact is, even if this Mesabi Range page survives, it will likely be as an incomplete stub, as the lion's share of useful Iron Range information is obviously accumulating at the Iron Range. The contributors and Wiki users appear to be voting with their mouse clicks. 70.187.149.53 14:57, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

• I also see Duluth included in the Arrowhead with no historic information on this page relating to Duluth. Duluth should have its own page. Make the Arrowhead and the Iron Range seperate please. Nobody cares about the arrowhead. The only time the arrowhead is reffered to here is by the weather man when he says that their will be rain throughout the arrowhead region. I also removed the section on Judy Garland. Grand Rapids is not part of the Range. (There is no iron mining done there, never has been never will be.)

• Grand Rapids is absolutely part of the Mesabi Iron Range! The Greenway, West Hill, and other significant mines are within a 5 mile radius of town, and mine tailings approach the city limits. Jerry picker 16:03, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

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See Wikipedia:Naming conventions ->Wikipedia:Naming conventions (technical restrictions)

The following character (forward slash) is allowed, but it is impossible to link if it is the first character of the title:

  /

(Slashes elsewhere in page titles can have some largely harmless side-effects...

also it implies an html hiarachy, So why use it when there are other options? Philip Baird Shearer 02:49, 12 May 2005 (UTC)

Divisions

There are a 1000 ways to divide minnesota, the "iron range" and "arrowhead" regions will never be able to be settled here because they are not official. However, The census does break MN into regions [1] I think this article should be re-labled Northeast minnesota, and Iron Range & arrow head should re-direct here. Can anyone else find an official definiton of MN regions? -Ravedave 21:22, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Itasca State Park

Although the Iron Range includes Itasca County, Itasca State Park is located in Clearwater County, Minnesota (Clearwater County Website) - not a part of the Iron Range (Iron_Range#Geography).

Major Cities

Neither Kinney nor Winton really qualifies as deserving of being listed. In fact, having lived in the area for 6+ years, I have never heard of either. Plus neither have a population over 1,000. I think they should be removed.

• Uff da, NO! I'm from Da Range and I've never heard of Kinney either. But the historical information is interesting. Don't cha know?Gandydancer (talk) 17:34, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Regions of Minnesota

The "Explore Minnesota" web site (http://www.exploreminnesota.com/regions/index.aspx) divides the state into four regions. We could do it that way. But I think to do so and be inclusive with the histories of major separate areas would be hugely monolithic. Would you include the Hinkley fire with the development of Duluth. The Cuyuna Range and the creation of the towns and cities from Bay Lake to the almost lost town of Tromald with the rest of "The Ranges"? Or perhaps I have misunderstood the scope of this project. I admit I am biased as I live in Crosby. --Watcher 03:32, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

I agree. There is already an article on the Arrowhead Region (and another on the North Shore). Most of the Iron Range is in the Arrowhead but some is not; let's leave description of the Arrowhead to its own article. Good articles stay on point, and this one will benefit by removing extraneous material covered elsewhere. So let's limit the cities and the population stats (if available) to the iron mining regions. We can mention the ports but they are not part of the Range. If not sooner done, I will make those changes soon. Kablammo 03:52, 22 June 2007 (UTC) At the same time we will have to revise Regions of Minnesota to conform. Kablammo 12:00, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

It sounds like the plan is to move most of the info. in this article to Arrowhead Region and then develop this one to talk mostly about iron mining. I think that's a great idea.--Appraiser 17:24, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Question

What is the difference between the Iron range and the Mesabi Range? ChildofMidnight (talk) 00:48, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

The Mesabi is one of the four iron deposits (ranges) which collectively make up the "Iron Range". From first section in the article. Vsmith (talk) 11:46, 28 October 2009 (UTC)