Talk:Kashmiris

Difference between intellectuals and witch doctors

I am an ethnic Kashmiri from the Kashmir valley, speaking Koshur and I think you are being prejudiced, there has always been a link with our fellow Kashmiris, who speak Pahari and are not Punjabi, they speak differently. I don't know much about anthropology, but you cannot say whatever may be the case I know they're not Punjabi, Its like saying the Scots are English, even though they both speak English, yet the Azad Kashmir people speak Pahari and the Punjabis speak Punjabi/Potohari. I sometimes wonder if these people with weird theories about the fellow Kashmiris in Azad Kashmir still think that the world is flat too. Some theories say Koshur is indo-Aryan anyway http://www.koshur.org/ , just like the Kasmiris in Azad Kashmir speak Pahari which is an Indo Aryan language too. Please research further with proper resources, I want us to be clear. The Yehudi (Jew) has now entered Kashmir (India) and has started the work the Jews are best known for; that is distort history and plant a fake Yedudi origin history. Aryan of Kashmir are not sleep in this Aryan Central Asian land.

You are a traitor who considers pahari speaking population of so called azad kashmir as "kashmiris". Just visit an area in azad kashmir and have a look at their language and culture, then go to the neighbouring areas of pakistani punjab and you will notice that these so called kashmiris of so called azad kashmir are plain punjabis. They have same ethnical surnames and roots like rajput, jatt or gujjar. Actually you jack pots who live in kashmir valley do not know about the ground realities of the area which is called azad kashmir for no reason´.

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There is lot of ignorance and nonsense in this thread. There is no race by the name Aryan so there is no question of anyone being pure Aryan. The word Aryan was used to describe the nobility and other influential people among proto-Indo-European cultures, it is is not a race. And people migrate so even if there was ever any such race, they would have been diluted beyond recognition by now. As for Kashmiri being different from other Indians, this is a myth being cultivated by jihad gang. Kashmiris are as different from other Indians/South Asians as other Indians are from each other. The world Kashmiriyat is also a very misused word, these people who claim Kashmiriyat as basis for another country don't even know a single kashmiri word, they speak urdu at home. As for being fairer to other South asians, that is partly true because fairness mostly increases with distance from equator. Some of the fairness and lighter hair color can also be attributed to relative isolation of the people in mountain valleys. However to an outsider, am average kashmiri is not going to look much different from an average South Asian, you are still a brown person. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.247.207.157 (talk • contribs) 26 September 2017 (UTC)

A required administrative look

@GoldenRing:. I reverted a removal of verifiable content on scholarly discourse on the origins of the Kashmiri race. I then get another person, Razer2115, reverting me and saying this edit comes within the topic ban (in an extremely broadly construed extension of the actual topic ban area). As the administrator who imposed the sanctions you will know well the limits that you have set out. JosephusOfJerusalem (talk) 09:08, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

@JosephusOfJerusalem: In my view, the racial origins of Kashmiris falls pretty squarely into the topic of conflict between India and Pakistan. Please avoid this area. GoldenRing (talk) 09:17, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Interestingly, you were told that you "are warned that any further disruption or testing of the edges of the ban will be met with either an indefinite topic ban from all topics related to India, Pakistan and Afghanistan or an indefinite block, without further warning."[1] Your note here is covered by the topic ban as well. My Lord (talk) 09:26, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Avoiding edit war

@CambridgeBayWeather: Given your experience with edit wars in South Asia topics, I would like you to monitor this page and ensure it remains on the last stable[2] version so that newcomers to this article do not cite WP:BRD to restore[3] the controversial new version[4] which I reverted.[5] That will be the best way to avoid edit war. Owais Khursheed (Talk to me)

Take a look at the consensus on Talk:Kashmiris/Archive 1#Kautilya3's new edits and bring some points that haven't been refuted. --RaviC (talk) 15:36, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

@Owais Khursheed: sorry but can you inform me if you are you going to self-revert yourself? You have violated 2RR. My Lord (talk) 15:54, 7 June 2018 (UTC)