Talk:List of films considered the worst

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Cats?

Cats was just released this week, so its too early to judge whether or not its worthy of this list, but so far the critics are tearing it apart and I have already counted two high-profile publications specifically calling it out as a "worst film": The Hollywood Reporter named it one of the worst films of 2019 the day of its release [1] and The Detroit News called it, "the biggest disaster of the decade, and possibly thus far in the millennium" and compared it to Battlefield Earth.[2] Worth watching to see if more critics begin making similar statements. This could be an early shoo-in like Jack and Jill. Reattacollector (talk) 20:01, 20 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed - it's already had a relentless barrage of negative reviews and it's performing badly enough that the CGI is supposedly going to be revamped for a subsequent cut https://www.theguardian.com/film/2019/dec/23/cats-film-resupplied-improved-visuals . It's obviously too early to contextualise this, but it's probably going to be a worthy (or should that be unworthy?) addition to this list in future. 2A00:23C5:C92D:C101:6427:D14B:4092:5E28 (talk) 13:11, 23 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe in a few years when there are multiple, reliable sources that call it one of the worst films of all time, but really only then. There are tons of films with strongly negative reception, this list is only for the worst. And so far it seems unlikely that this film will qualify as the reception is rather negative, but not completely (RT 18%, MC 32/100).Was ist schon ein Name? (talk) 10:41, 27 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Was actually just about to start a discussion on here, then seen this one. I think you could easily find reliable sources claiming it to be one of the worst, even though it’s still a new film. It’s current rating on IMDB is 2.8 making it lower than most films on here. Lukejordan02 (talk) 10:22, 13 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, Cats has some of the lowest reviews ever seen and is still gaining traction for the fact they are patching it whilst it is still in the cinema. I think I've seen a few sources calling it "the worst movie of the decade", so the inclusion of cats is reasonable in my view.Theprussian (talk) 21:14, 28 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
LA Times and Daily Mail have made articles where they collected reviews savaging the film. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.26.220.45 (talk) 23:58, February 7, 2020 (UTC)

Screw it. I say let's add it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheOneAndOnlyOne (talk • contribs) 16:29, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I would give serious consideration to adding "Cats" now that we are some months away from the initial reaction and we can be more level-headed and reasoned about its impact. Even now the dust has settled, "Cats" is generating YouTube videos analysing what went wrong, Twitter is still a good source of articles explaining the circumstances surrounding its release, there are plenty of interviews and off-record reports about the filming and how it was almost doomed from the start. Given its ratings, given its reputation, given its continued use as a punchline, and now that we are separate from the white heat of the immediate reaction, I think there is a very good case for adding it to this article. We could try to whip up a draft entry here before adding it to the article? doktorb wordsdeeds 07:00, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I am very skeptical of any film added here before the end of year lists come out. Any film listed here should have at least managed to memorably terrible enough to still be listed as "the worst" when it comes time for critics to compile their end of year lists, and this list is "worst ever" so these films should be appearing on worst lists for years to come too. -- 109.76.217.83 (talk) 00:23, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

what about The Apple

whatever happened to this film?: The Apple — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jetcold0 (talk • contribs) 02:19, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Someone added this to the list by copying and pasting the reception section from the main article. A quote from Mike Lancaster of Stinkers calling it the worst he had ever seen is included but not backed up in sources. Can anyone source the quote?LM2000 (talk) 17:41, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
It's already on there. Espngeek (talk) 01:05, 26 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The source shows only that it was nominated for a Stinkers award in 1980.LM2000 (talk) 02:12, 26 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Death Of A Nation (2018)

Poydoo TheJoebro64 Why did you REPEATEDLY removed this film removed? SAaphIrEblUE (talk) 16:05, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Because the film has been discussed here, and it was decided that although the film is really bad, it isn't the worst film ever. Poydoo can talk and edit 16:21, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note that this film is on the list of films removed from the article. JOEBRO64 16:27, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • Poydoo TheJoebro64 It was listed as among the worst, if not the worst, by Haaretz, Metacritic, Roger Ebert, Vanity, The A.V. Club, Variety, Chicago Tribune, and The Playlist listed "Death of a Nation" among the worst films of the year. The film was also panned by Hollywood Reporter while Bill Goodykoontz of The Arizona Republic described the documentary as "messy, unintentionally hilarious". Their criticsms sure supported the views that "Death Of A Nation" ranks among the "List of films considered worse" at least for 2018.SAaphIrEblUE (talk) 17:36, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      • This list is for films considered the worst of all time, not worst of THE YEAR. Only one reliable source, Metacritic, comes close to saying that and even then it is tied with five other films for the lowest score on the site; only two of them appear on this list. We need multiple sources to show a broad spectrum of critics describing this as the worst movie ever made.LM2000 (talk) 17:45, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
        • I concur with LM2000 that the film needs to be considered the worst of all time, not of the year. We would need reliable sources that look back and recognize it as such. Erik (talk | contrib) (ping me) 19:12, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
          • Wait, "the film needs to be considered the worst of all time, not of the year" then why are both Jack and Jill and Bucky Larson still included on the list? Apparently Bucky Larson was previously on the removed list, and I'm sure it is terribly but I don't think it is both terrible and NOTABLE, nor do I think it was the worst film of that year. Sources support that Jack and Jill was hated by critics, and for years after. Keeping Bucky Larson on this list only distracts from the true awfulness of Jack and Jill. -- 109.76.217.83 (talk) 00:32, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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