Talk:Stana Katic

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Croatian or Serbian

"Of Dalmatian origin?" Goddamn it, she's not a dog. She's either Croatian, Serbian or whatever... Baks (talk) 21:46, 12 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"Her parents are both Serbian, and she was born in Canada. Thus she is Canadian of Serbian origin. Thats why they ran away from Croatia. I know the condition, because I am one of those people. I also know someone that knows her family, and they go to Serbian church. BTW, although I am Serbian, I have cousins who are Croatian. I also have Greek cousins. I have Irish cousins. One of my cousins got married to a Croatian. Another to a Greek. Sister to Irishman. So, how hard is that to comprehend? Not at all. Her cousin can be Swahili for all we care, but her parents are Serbian. Her kids could be Jewish, German, Black, Indian, Hispanic. Who cares. " —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alser (talkcontribs) 17:17, 25 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Stana Katic is NOT of croation decent. Both of her parent are Serbs, born in Dalmacia. I live in Hamilton, Ontario where Stana was born. Her cousin told me she is pure Serb. (unsigned comment by 24.213.84.51 on 21 September 2009.)

This phrase makes zero sense: "born in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada to Croatian parents in Croatia, who emigrated from Croatia." I don't know the facts, so I can't fix it, but this sounds ridiculous.--75.27.35.230 (talk) 02:17, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It's actually kind of funny, though. -Lisa (talk) 20:10, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

here is says that she is Croatian, and her parents are cousins to a popular Croatian actor who is a Croat: link. The line "Stana Katić rođena je u Kanadi, ali je hrvatskog podrijetla - roditelji su joj iz Dalmacije i rođaci su splitskog glumca Sime Katića" means "Stana Katić is born in Canada, but she is of Croatian origin - her parents are from Dalmatia and are cousins to the Split actor Šime Katić.

I know this doesn't necessarily confirm her ethnic group, but one thing that all sources have in common is this: her parents came from Croatia (i.e. Dalmatia). So how about, instead of saying she is either Croatian or Serbian, we just say that her parents came from Croatia? This is the most efficient, factually accurate, and verifiable way of saying it. --OettingerCroat (talk) 09:04, 2 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Those links after statement that her mother is Croatian are really not realible- couple of links from croatian tabloid press where they state she's "our girl" just because her parents were born in Dalmatia-so are Serbs and Italians, so are they also by this definition Croatian?! Those articles are so stupid it causes nausea. I'm not disputing that her mother could be Croatian, the important thing would be to state her oppinion because I know lots of people from former Yugoslavia who come from mixed heritage- and are completely one side oriented and sometimes more "Serbian" and "Croatian" than others. Jarovid (talk) 03:10, 2 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Year of birth

On her IMDB profile it says she was born in 1978, not 1980. Which is correct? She looks 30 to me! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.93.142.68 (talk) 17:20, 25 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There isn't much look difference between 29 and 31, so "about 30" is right either way! MVillani1985 (talk) 03:25, 29 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Middle Name

Stana Katic's middle name is not Jacqueline. It's unclear where this rumor started. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.168.161.68 (talk) 16:17, 31 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Languages

In addition to English, she speaks Croatian, Bosnian, Serbian, Slovene, French and Italian. I thought Croatian, Bosnian, Serbian are essentially a same language called Serbocroatian. Meaning that those are only dialects. 85.217.50.138 (talk) 22:05, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's a neverending pissing contest between lingual fascist in the Balkans that argue there are differences between those 'languages' significant enough to mark them as languages, and Yugoslav-nostalgics who stick to the idea that there is validity in calling the common language of southern Slavs the 'Serbocroatian' -- i.e. by the name of two most numerous ethnicities using it. Ironycally, it was actually 'Ilyrian/Serbo-Croatian-Unity' champions in the 19th century who made it possible to now claim that there are actual differences by using phonetic transcription for the differentiating Slavic 'yata' and 'shta' instead of a common grapheme for each. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.250.108.155 (talk) 09:56, 10 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

oh god you're ignorant...american? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.76.228.201 (talk) 20:46, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Actress "Nationality"

I changed the lead to indicate that she's an American actress because she gained notability as an actress in America. Another editor reverted my change saying in the edit summary that "her nationality is still Canadian regardless of where she becomes famous." First, to the extent it even matters, Katic has dual citizenship (it's what she says in her resume on her website). Second, She may be Canadian by birth, but what we're describing is what kind of actress she is, and she's gained her notability as an actress in the US. WP:MOSBIO alludes to this, but it's directive is open to some interpretation:

The opening paragraph should have: ... 3. Context (location, nationality, or ethnicity); 1. In most modern-day cases this will mean the country of which the person is a citizen or national (according to each nationality law of the countries), or was a citizen when the person became notable.

My view is that the key is not the citizenship of the person when she became notable, but the country, particularly, as here, the person has done all of her acting in the US. If someone were a French citizen and went to England when she was nine years old and remained in England the rest of her life (but also remained a French citizen), would she really be considered a French actress? What if she was one day old when she moved to England?

If no consensus can be reached, one way around the problem is to change the opening sentence to read: "Stana Jacqueline Katic (born April 26, 1978) is a film and television actress." Then, let the body of the article explain her background.

Comments?--Bbb23 (talk) 20:50, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No one has responded, even the editor who reverted my changes. Therefore, as a compromise, I'm going to change the article to be neutral on the issue of nationality in the lead. Please do NOT revert without first coming here to discuss.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:08, 13 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]