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In the UK

In the United Kingdom, I think the phrase “the Establishment” more or less refers to the monarchic and dynastic section of Freemasonry, albeit in a cryptic way. For instance, when the Prime Minister names Anglican bishops, he first has to consult with the “Establishment”, who always tend to pick the worst bishops possible in order to best weaken the Church of England. ADM (talk) 07:46, 31 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Globalize and remove Recentism

I've added a tag to request a global view of the subject. The article as of 24/5/09 deals primarily with the UK and US. The concept of an official "Establishment" is a phenomenon which exists worldwide and it is therefore important that the article reflects that. See Wikipedia: Worldwide View. Alex McKee (talk) 05:00, 24 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed it. The term is for one thing distinctive to English, & is written in very general terms in any case. Johnbod (talk) 09:20, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've re-added it, along with WP:Recentism. This article totally neglects an important historical context: the term was widely used in 1960s and 1970s by US hippies, as a symbol of everything they felt was wrong with the world (essentially a conspiracy theory). Funny thing, how as these hippies (Baby boomers) grew into middle age, thus effectively becomming "the Establishment", the term seems to have disappeared from wide use in the US; hence the Recentist slant. Now they blame everything on the "dead white guys". JustinTime55 (talk) 21:32, 26 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

1923 origin

The article gives Fairlie (1955) as the origin, although Fairlie credits Emerson, who wrote in his "Historic Notes of Life and Letters in New England" (1867):

There are always two parties, the party of the Past and the party of the Future; the Establishment and the Movement.[1]

But the Online Etymology Dictionary writes: Meaning "ruling people and institutions" is from 1923.[2] Does anyone have an idea which 1923 publication this may refer to? --Lambiam 07:49, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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"Eton College in England has educated nineteen British prime ministers." ..so? How many US Presidents were educated at Harvard or Yale? Bataaf van Oranje (Prinsgezinde) (talk) 10:37, 14 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

U.S.A.

I think a section should be dedicated to Usa, now that Trump is president against the whole northamerican establishment to which the Clinton dynasty belongs. Thanks in advance. Backinstadiums (talk) 11:53, 23 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

French origin?

Does the noun "establishment" and the verb "establish" have French origin? Oddeivind (talk) 11:20, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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 I think a section should be dedicated to Usa, now that Trump is president against the whole northamerican establishment to which the Clinton dynasty belongs. Thanks in advance. [[User:Backinstadiums|Backinstadiums]] ([[User talk:Backinstadiums|talk]]) 11:53, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
+== French origin? ==
+Does the noun "establishment" and the verb "establish" have French origin? [[User:Oddeivind|Oddeivind]] ([[User talk:Oddeivind|talk]]) 11:20, 24 March 2019 (UTC)