User talk:DexDor

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Happy New Year, DexDor!

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DexDor,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:41, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

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Thank you for supporting my RfA

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	Thank you for participating at my RfA. Your support was very much appreciated even if I did get a bit scorched. Brianhe (talk) 08:00, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

Anglo-centric wording AME

Hello,

Not to be rude, however I highly suggest that you do some homework and read the Air Navigation Regulations 1919 - which is the root for the "Engineer" in civilian aviation to be capitolised.. and the UK "English" in the ANR 1919 (published April 29, 1919) pre-dates the signing of the October 13, 1919 Paris conference on Civilian Aviation...

However, prior to this "Engineering" and "Engineers" were used in UK parliamentary documents and Acts... going back some 350 years in the London Gazette and the Hansard record you will find the capitoisation of "Engineers"... you will also find that it was defined as a "TRADE" in government documents (UK Board of Trade held the standard for their TRADES training as a department of the UK government) before it became a "Professional Association of..."

The "Engineer" "Engineers" "Corps of ROYAL Engineers" "RE" and the modern "REME" as well as the "AME" in the English vocabulary all come from one derivitive, and that is NOT the P.Eng of today, nor is it by way of any common person's decision.

The terminology for "Engineers" in the UK - and subsequently the Commonwealth all come from the "Declaration of an English Monarch", the King! and these terms have been a part of England and the English language since well prior to when they received their charter in the 1700's.

Engineers and Engineering in England originated well before 1066 and are tied into the Roman Military Engineers who came to the lands that we now call England as a part of the Roman Legions. Even Parliamentarians recognise "Engineers were not to be made in a day, or by an act of parliament"

From the Military Engineers of Rome, evolved every single one of the Engineering terms and disciplines of today.. the Roman Engineers were the first that we see in England and that we know of by way of recorded and verifiable history.

Subsequently, in 1803 / 1804 the British Military "Royal Staff Corps" evolved from the Royal Engineers. "The Royal Staff Corps was neither more nor less than a branch growing out of the Engineers, and formed for the purpose of patronage"

The AMT is an "American" magazine.. and contains articles and text written by the common "American English" speaker.. Americans tend to not speak the "Queen's English".. and have polluted the language.

Today, the words people use sometimes do not reflect their origin or their original meaning - however, the AME is a British held and originated word with regard to miitary and civilian aviation and its root can be found in published documents so numerous that you haven't enough space here to hold them all, however I can and will see if I can add every single reference for the "Engineer" and Engineers" in British legislative and Crown documents from 1715 onwards if that is what it takes..

Be prepared, the documented history will floor you.

The London Gazette "The Gazette - the UK's official public record since 1665" records at least 781,751 instances and the Hansard 109,985 instances of potential reference.

Between 1700 and 1930 there are 102894 recorded instances of "Engine" and similarities in the London Gazette

For the period 1800 thru 1900 in the Hansard record there are 10,670 instances of instances of "Engine" and similarities......

CanadianAME (talk) 00:42, 7 February 2016 (UTC) Canadian AME

References

WP:TLDR. Please see MOS:CAPS. It is common in the real world for extra capitalization to be used in some places (e.g. job adverts often capitalize each word of job titles - "Foobar Ltd have vacancies for Factory Operatives, Security Guards, Maintenance Engineers, ..."). You appear to be suggesting that every reference to "engineer", "engineering" etc in Wikipedia should have a capital "E" - i.e. that "An engineer is a practitioner of engineering, ..." should be changed to "An Engineer is a practitioner of Engineering, ...". That's not gonna fly. DexDor ^(talk) 06:49, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

The official and legal terminology for the "Aircraft Maintenance Engineer" in the UK and EU

For the proper and formal reference to be used for the capitalization of "Aircraft Maintenance Engineer" i direct you to read The European Communities (Recognition of Professional Qualifications) Regulations 2007 (EU Statutory Instrument No.2781) "SCHEDULE 1 Regulations" 4 and 6 "REGULATED PROFESSIONS" PART 1 - "PROFESSIONS REGULATED BY LAW OR PUBLIC AUTHORITY" wherin the chart of recognized Professions (“profession” includes occupation or trade) you will find the correct and legally recognised term of refernce for the United Kingdom and the European Union to be "Aircraft Maintenance Engineer" which is the correct way to spell it or the RAeS reference

Without the AME - NOTHING FLIES...

CanadianAME (talk) 02:07, 8 February 2016 (UTC) Canadian AME

References

If you disagree with the MOS (e.g. MOS:JOBTITLES) then I suggest you discuss it on the MOS's talk page. DexDor ^(talk) 05:31, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

The AME is professional training for Regulatory Compliance and carries weighty responsibilities. Persons with University Degree's, whether Masters or PhD, still require 2+ years of additional additional training, testing and licensing to act in the capacity of the AME in civil aviation.

There can be no Certificate of Conformance, Certificate of Mainenance Release, Certificate of Release to Service, Fitness to fly or Airworthiness statementthat can be signed except by AMEs. The AME license is a legal document used to maintain, overhaul, modify, replace, sign and certify any aircraft as fit to fly.

Aviation is divided into three distinct areas of engineering:

1) The Aircraft design - on paper projections and calculatiosn by persons working as Aeronautical Engineers (not just Professional university educated Aeronautical Engineers either) but thousands of people who work on design prototypes in paper before even getting into the wind tunnels and simulator.

2) Assembly work: the engine, airframe, electrical, avionics, pressurization, control surface installation.. Everything mathematically positioned to get an aircraft ready for test flight. Well before before an aircraft “Type” ever sees the air as a flying machine.Putting these bits and pieces together are done by highly experienced mechanics (A&P and A&P with I.A inAmerica) commonly called Aircraft Maintenance Engineers (UK and Commonwealth Nations plus others) no matter if they are "Licensed on Type" or Licensed to inspect and certify.

3) The Aircraft Flying off the assembly line and recorded on an nation's aircraft register , this is the stage where “civil aviation” comes into play. By International design and standard (ICAO), personnel who are required for work on an aircraft at this stage, the AMEs, pilots and indirectly the Air traffic controllers, must ALL be licensed by their "State" to accompish their function in the aviation industry. These three classes of personnel at this stage are recognized by International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO).

Aeronautical engineers and other engineers; be it a PhD holder needs to obtain a license in addition to their P.Eng in order to be able to work in this third stage, However many University educated Engineers and others who could not obtain an AME license (Because it is hard WORK) and who do not understand it's role in PUBLIC SAFETY have, thru the years since the 1940's, degraded the AME license in an apparent effort to justify their belief that Universityeducated "Aeronautical Engineers" are the only "Engineers" that count.. subsequently reducing the license issued by the State to the AME as a certificate of competence and finely honed skill achieved thru a MINIMUM 2 year apprenticeship followed by a series of Oral, Practical and written exams (which were the initial requirements for the issuance of an AME License) to what is now little more than a "Here's your Lolly" for passing some 2 pages of multiple choice questions with NO Oral, Practical or written - long form examination - which would attest to the applicants skill and compeence AFTER their term of apprenticeship... All this to try and downplay and degrade the AME in an effort for someone else to justify his position. Usually that person knows nothing about performing aircraft maintenance, aircraft maintenance safety standards and about the profession of AME they frequently claim to be "supervising".

You can disagree with me, and other people who are subject matter experts and you can continually refute historically accurate and readily avail. information which substantiates what is being said to you and refuse to even look into the documents.

History doesn't lie, but editors can and do.. or just neglect to take note of certain facts. If you are an AME state your license number and issuing agency so it can be verified to determine if you are an subject matter expert on the AME.

CanadianAME (talk) 00:36, 18 February 2016 (UTC) Canadian AME

Your revert regarding "Category:Internet events"

Reading your pages here, categorization would seem to be an area of interest to you. Wikipedia's most confused categorizations are "Internet" and "World Wide Web". Just look at Category:World Wide Web - and that's only the top level! Category:Internet is in far better shape only because I've kept it so (apologies for blowing my own horn, but - yes- I've edited/deleted hundreds of "Internet" categorizations). I think you'd enjoy the challenge of cleaning up Category:World Wide Web. No response necessary; I'll not be back. 73.71.159.231 (talk) 18:29, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

revisions to category:Deputy directors of the Information Department of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the People's Republic of China

Hello, DexDor. The category has been expanded to 5 articles and there is a parent category now. Zee money (talk) 16:05, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

Added more References for the Draft

Hi DexDor,

Thank you for reviewing the page Heavy Vehicle unit Tax. I have added more reliable references to the page. Advise. Thanks Ifabi2016 (talk) 13:46, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

Smart Cities Template

Hi there, I noticed that the Template:Smart cities has been put up of deletion.

Recently I had created the Template:Cities in India to be or developed as Smart Cities without noticing that a similar Template:Smart cities was already existing (although it was incomplete at that time). My template is complete in full sense and I have already inserted it in almost 40% of the pages mentioned in the template, on the other hand Template:Smart cities in not inserted on any city pages mentioned in it.

You gave example of Bhopal, asserting that it has got too many templates, but I want to tell you that nor all the million plus urban agglomerations in India are included in the Smart Cities Mission (eg. Bengaluru/Bangalore) neither all the cities to be developed as smart cities are million plus agglomerations (eg. Pasighat). Thus, I think it is okay that both the templates are present on that page.

Why the Template:Smart cities should be deleted instead of Template:Cities in India to be or developed as Smart Cities:

• The template in not present on the pages of the cities to be developed as smart cities.
• After completing the list of qualified cities it once again list them in phase-wise manner which means all the hundred cities will be listed again in three rows (phase 1, phase 2 and phase 3), which is pointless!
• Most of the cities have no internal wiki link or have disambiguation links.
• Details are wrong. The title of the template mentions "Proposed smart cities in India - Phase 1 (98 cities)" but only 20 cities have been qualified for phase 1 [1] not all. The last two rows tries to list them the first phase in haphazard manner!

Wiki.Gunjan (talk) 22:41, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

Wikiproject United States Coast Guard Auxiliary

As a current or past contributor to a USCG Auxiliary article, I thought I'd let you know about WikiProject United States Coast Guard Auxiliary, a collaborative effort to improve Wikipedia's coverage of the United States Coast Guard Auxiliary. If you would like to participate, you can visit the project page, where you can join the project and see a list of open tasks and related articles. Thanks!

COASTIE I am (talk) 00:43, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

Subpages

These Education pages you've nominated are not G8s - they're subpages of talk pages, not talk pages of non-existent pages, and were created that way because the namespace only permits subpages in the talk space. Guettarda/Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 18:42, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

Hi Guettarda/Ian. Can you provide some more info about what these pages are/were trying to achieve (and whether they are still wanted) ? A page such as Education Program talk:University of California, Berkeley/MCB 200A: Fundamentals of Molecular and Cell Biology (Fall 2014)/support doesn't (technically) appear to be a subpage as it has no "breadcrumb" link to a parent page (cf a page such User talk:DexDor/Archive 2011). It also appears to have no inlinks from other (EnWp) pages. The parent (i.e. this) also doesn't follow usual talk-page conventions, has no inlinks - and its "parent" is a redlink (this) - as is its "grandparent" (this).

Note: The namespace (446) is not one of those listed here. DexDor ^(talk) 21:55, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

The way we used those 'support' subpages was via the {{course link}} template. For example: Template:Course link. We don't actively use this system any more, but there was a bot task that replaced links on the education noticeboard with that template, so that people could easily see which courses were supported by Wiki Education Foundation when they were being discussed on the noticeboard. Courses that were never linked to from the noticeboard won't show the /support subpage as being linked to; it wouldn't really be a problem to delete such pages, but there isn't much reason to IMO. Some other talk subpages (not /support) are actually being transcluded in namespace 446, but may not show up as linked because of the quirks of the EP extension (for example, this one); deleting those can result in breaking the course pages themselves. (I fixed that list to note EP as one of those namespaces without subpages.)--Sage (Wiki Ed) (talk) 22:16, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

Thanks Sage. Fyi One of the things I do in wp is look for unusual pages (e.g. pages at unusual combinations of categories and namespaces) as this finds many pages that are in the wrong namespace, are incorrectly categorized, are bits of defunct initiatives (that are cluttering the place up), vandalism etc (see User:DexDor/FHL for more info). Of course, whilst doing this I don't want to do anything that causes problems for editors doing good work.

(IMO) either this is a valid use of talk pages (in which case it should be documented - e.g. at Help:Using talk pages) or it is not a valid use of talk pages (in which case they should be deleted). DexDor ^(talk) 06:59, 17 March 2016 (UTC)