User talk:Malik Shabazz

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Good man

Thanks for making the right move. For my own part, thought the COI charges were unfounded given the lack of evidence shown, but now I see the matter differently (though one always has to be careful with outing). Plot Spoiler (talk) 04:05, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

According to WP:Outing: "if individuals have identified themselves without redacting or having it oversighted, such information can be used for discussions of conflict of interest in appropriate forums." I can't see any reason why the information is not appropriate for discussion on the COI noticeboard. Removal of the information seems to have derailed the discussion. Dlv999 (talk) 06:52, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

The WP:outing link is being republished on the COI board. Could you please expunge? That kind of information should not be shared per Wikipedia policy. Thanks. Plot Spoiler (talk) 23:41, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

Other editors have posted the links, and they do not appear to violate WP:OUTING. I'm afraid it's out of my hands. — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 02:55, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

Plan 9 (band)

Hi, I saw this just got A7'ed. The nominator (User:Hoponpop69) tends not to do any research before A7'ing things, and he is currently on one of his periodic "tears" through music articles. While I did not get a chance to see this article before its deletion, the band may meet WP:MUSIC, and this artist biography (which includes several album reviews) should lift the article out of blatant A7 territory. (Among other things, this band was sampled by Beck on his song "Devil's Haircut"). Could you please take another look? Chubbles (talk) 06:50, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

Agree regarding that particular user. I've warned him myself on several occasions. Regarding Plan 9, I also am able to find entire articles about them in such newspapers as the Providence Journal and the Calgary Herald, and I'd be glad to add those sources. Paul Erik ^{(talk)(contribs)} 00:04, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

I've restored the article. I encourage either of you to add reliable sources to the article so it doesn't get deleted again. — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 02:48, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

Anti-Muslim pogroms in India

Which article did this duplicate? Please restore it or failing that copy the content to User:Darkness Shines/Pogroms so I can finish the article. Darkness Shines (talk) 07:24, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

The speedy deletion notification placed on the article creator's talk page, which is you here, clearly states which article it duplicates. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 07:49, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

It does not duplicate Persecution_of_Muslims#India at all. And had just been started BTW. Malik, please copy the content across to my userpage as requested and I will finish writig the article today. Darkness Shines (talk) 07:55, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

As requested, I've restored the article to User:Darkness Shines/Anti-Muslim pogroms in India. — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 02:52, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

DS says "Thank you." Mr T^{(Talk?) (New thread?)} 13:38, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

• Persecution of Muslims#India, Religious violence in India and 2002 Gujarat violence cover the topic in detail and, since he is on his way to create Anti-Muslim pogroms in India, I would like to point to the following things:

1. This term, "Pogrom" originates from 19th-century Tsarist Russia where it was first used to label attacks against Jewish civilians that were officially approved by the authorities but carried out by civilian mobs who acted with impunity while the police watched idly.
2. The pogrom thing, as of now, is mentioned in context of Gujarat. Now, there is no proof that it was formally instigated by the Gujarat authorities. Far from stoking violence, the authorities, in an attempt to quell the riot, actually declared a curfew immediately after the first signs of attack — and this was spelled out even in media reports. Thus, the police didn't sit back and watch idly.
3. In the aftermath a good many people (mostly Hindus) were punished (sentenced to life in prison). Hence, they weren't acting with "impunity".
4. Thus there were no "pogroms" against Muslims in India.

Yes, there were communal riots here and there since independence (which is covered in Religious violence in India in detail). But to take this sort of extraordinary leap from riots to "pogrom" would be grossly unfair. Mr T^{(Talk?) (New thread?)} 13:35, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

Those are all valid considerations, and I think the appropriate time to discuss them is when Darkness Shines finishes the userspace draft and readies it for mainspace. — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 03:29, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Okay thank you. Mr T^{(Talk?) (New thread?)} 07:33, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Help?

• Mr. Shabazz could you do me a favour please? There is a good article Tiruvannamalai (official name, common name) that was moved to Tiruvarunai (informal name) without any discussion whatsoever. It happens, I know. But then an active editor of that article got upset and in his fervor he performed "cut and paste move" (thereby breaking the history); I had to undo him albeit his rationale against the initial move was sound. I explained to him the legal ramifications a cut and paste move may have, well I tried, but he is still very confused. He doesn't seem to understand the legal facet of his cut-paste edit. He is a bit hesitant, as it seems, to ask an admin personally, so here I am. Could please move the page back to its original name? Thank you. Mr T^{(Talk?) (New thread?)} 07:33, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

 Done — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 21:13, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your kind help. Mr T^{(Talk?) (New thread?)} 06:54, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Kazumasa Shimizu

Hello Malik Shabazz. Well, Bicholim conflict was also not but ok. However what about: "what's the notability of a footballer who did only six appearances". Cheers, Gabriel Yuji (talk) 03:32, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi Gabriel. Speedy deletion criterion G3 is for hoaxes that are blatantly obvious, and Kazumasa Shimizu isn't an obvious hoax. If you'd like, you can PROD the article, or you can nominate it for speedy deletion under another criterion (such as A7). — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 21:19, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Ok. Thanks, Gabriel Yuji (talk) 23:57, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Shipman & Goodwin page deletion

Hi Malik,

I'm working on a project as a student for Central Connecticut State University (CCSU), I posted the Shipman & Goodwin page. People came to speak at the school and students didn't know about them. The only wiki reference I could find was http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_U.S._law_firms_by_number_of_lawyers and since other lawyers on that list had pages I thought it was okay. I modeled mined after Sullivan & Cromwell http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sullivan_%26_Cromwell I got some historical information from Shipman & Goodwin but I wasn't able to put it up yet cause I needed to find sources...did you know they settled a law suit involving the song Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer?

Please help...I really wanted to put this page up for the CCSU community. Thanks, Ccsu student (talk) 13:27, 30 May 2013 (UTC)CCSU_Student

Hello. The best way to write a Wikipedia article is to summarize in your own words what reliable sources have written about the subject. Please feel free to write a new article about Shipman & Goodwin based on what has been written about them in reliable sources. — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 02:43, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

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Picture move to Commons

Hi, Malik. See File:Kiddush cup jerusalem.jpg. It's been tagged as movable for a while, but never actually moved. Is there a reason not to do so? Can you do it easily? (I've never done this, so would take me a while to accomplish it.) I'm starting to add some Judaism articles in simplewiki, and want to use this for Kiddush. Thanks. StevenJ81 (talk) 15:15, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

 Done — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 03:13, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Thank you — StevenJ81 (talk) 03:50, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Nakba

Wikipedia is Objective encyclopedia. you are not allowed to write here articles with your personal Opinions even if your are admin. you cannot change the history even if you want to. this is what it was and its called the jewish nakba. if you have problem with that you are stupid racist. as Ashkenazi Jews was racist to the mizrahi jews refugees from the arab lands in the 50's. have a nice day. 109.65.226.91 (talk) 18:55, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

Disambiguation pages are intended to help readers. It's unlikely that anybody would type the word Nakba into the search box when they mean the expulsion of Jews from Arab states. — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 02:57, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

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Discussion of Im Tirtzu on NIF article

I appreciate your revert of my recent edit regarding Im Tirtzu as irrelevant to NIF. (I quibble with the RS issue, and I'm sure that I could find other sources, but that's beside the point). The assessment that Im Tirtzu is a fascist organization is only relevant because so much space on the NIF article is given over to discussing Im Tirtzu's allegations. The larger question, I think, is one of whether we need to restructure the article to put the noise generated by Im Tirtzu in proper weight. I opened this up on NIF's talk page and would welcome your advice/participation. --Perplexed566 (talk) 17:45, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi. I've left a comment at Talk:New Israel Fund. — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 21:46, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Talmud/Gemara

Just to let you know, my friend btk13 (talk · contribs) came back ... with a more civil tone. You don't "have to" watch it over the long run, as I have it under control, I think. But I did want you to know how I'm handling this. Shabbat Shalom. StevenJ81 (talk) 21:41, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Okay. Shabbat shalom to you too. — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 21:49, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Errol Sawyer

Why did you deleted my article about a very important African-American artist? G8: This page was deleted as a result of routine housekeeping as a page that was dependent on a deleted or non-existent page. Please do not recreate this page unless there is a good reason to do so. What do you mean exactly? Can't you have a discussion before you destroy an article that is appreciated by a lot of people?--Fred Bokker (talk) 15:16, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

The article about Mr. Sawyer was deleted because it was the re-creation of an article that had been deleted twice in the past. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Errol Sawyer and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Errol Sawyer (2nd nomination), and WP:G4. — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 17:40, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Dear Mr Malik Shabazz, Can you compare the article of 2009 with the one of 2013? Mr Errol Sawyer's book 'City Mosaic' was published december 2009. Julian Spalding wrote his review about his work in 2012 and Sawyer's work is also present in the collection of Tate Britain, London, UK since 2012. etc. etc. He has more than enough references and links to have a wiki article. Can you be so wise to put it back on? Fred Bokker (talk) 19:05, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

The 2013 article is the same as the 2009 article, with the addition of the new book. The references are not reliable sources and Mr. Sawyer still does not satisfy WP:ANYBIO or WP:CREATIVE, the applicable notability guidelines. If you don't agree with me, please take the matter to WP:Deletion review. — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 19:17, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

The Amin Collection.

I'm rather shocked with why the page 'The Amin Colllection' was deleted? This page used to be on Wikipedia before and there were no problems. It was previously removed because the family wanted it removed. They have now given permission for it to go back up. The factual information is all correct and the references are all real. The collection is well known amongst art galleries and collectors. I have been in the art world for 15 years - I don't know how my writing of a famous collection is ambiguous?

Could you restore the article and I will make any relevant changes you wanted. Truthcollection (talk) 15:26, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

The article was deleted (twice) because it was unambiguously promotional. See WP:G11. If you'd like to write a new article about the Amin Collection, please summarize in your own words what reliable sources have written about the collection. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 17:45, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Church of Light G7 namespace issue

Hi I have a G7 namespace issue with Church of Light I have no idea what to do, and a bit clueless as to what the issue is?? Thanks for your time. JEMead (talk) 15:43, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi. Your article Church of Light is fine and has not been changed. There was a redirect to it, Wikipedia:The Church of Light, that was deleted because you blanked the page and because pages that start with the expression "Wikipedia:" are reserved for technical pages. (It's referred to as the "Wikipedia namespace", as opposed to the "main namespace" or "article namespace". See WP:Namespace for more information.) Please let me know if you have any further questions. — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 17:54, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Thank You! I was hoping it was my own ignorance. I appreciate that was found/discovered. I did build the page that currently exists. It (the previous) had been deleted. I probably copied and deleted the text when I was helping them get something together (at least a start). I was caught by surprise. I apologize for the inconvenience - and my ignorance. JEMead (talk) 18:35, 1 June 2013 (UTC)