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Creosite

Hi, I didn't expect the article to go through first time of course, but I have some problems with the response. Could you please help? What I got (with my interjections) was:

This request reads more like an essay than an encyclopedia article.

OK, but are you talking style, wording, subject matter or what?

Submissions should summarise information in secondary, reliable sources and not contain opinions or original research.

That is the theory, but how is that to apply to factual material that no one seems to write about? Very few articles adhere strictly to the principle simply because it isn't always possible to take it literally. For example, in this case the secondary reliable sources had to be collected from lots of places and exhibited (eg WWW search engine results open to common inspection). Why? because that was where the word was accessible and visible. Apart from that, could you point out any unsupported or unreferenced text in the article?

Please write about the topic from a neutral point of view

NPOV? There is no controversy involved here. How do I get more neutral than retrieving text and retailing it in context? Is there some place you could refer me to that is POV as you see it?

in encyclopedic style.

I was trying simply to write clearly; was the "non-encyclopaedic" style too informal or chatty?

Sorry to bother, but looking at the text I simply had no idea where to start trying to meet your requirements. Cheers, JonRichfield (talk) 20:36, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

I declined the submission because of the article's tone, and because it appears that large portions of the article is unsourced. The article appears to be evaluating the subject, rather than just presenting information that can be verified in reliable sources. For example

“ It is difficult to find clear examples of the use of the word creosite without the likelihood that it either is a typographic error, or used in ignorance by someone who did not realise that the word originated from an error. ”

is not sourced and is likely derived from original research. The submission also presents reasons as to why the word should not be used. Unless these reasons are stated in a reliable source, they really can't be included. If the reasons are stated in reliable source(s), then it should be explained that the reasons were stated by that particular source. Another example is "...any chemist knows that there is such a word as creosote..." This statement is unsourced, and appears to be a personal observation. To sum it up, information that cannot be verified in reliable sources (such as newspapers, book, or magazines) needs to be removed. If an opinion is used by a source, it should be made clear that it is the source that holds the opinion. I hope that helps you. If you have any other questions, I would be happy to help. Best, Alpha_Quadrant ^(talk) 20:53, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

CODENI

Hello AQ, You recently reviewed the article CODENI, and I am preparing for a re-write. Before I begin this task, I am wondering if the following list of publications would be a sufficient and acceptable collection of sources for the article? Thank you for your help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Melissawarp (talk • contribs) 17:25, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

The link to the source list doesn't appear to be working. You really just need four or so reliable third party sources, such as newspaper articles, magazines, or books in order to establish the subject's notability. Sources do not need to be online, or in English. Once this is addressed, and the article is written in a neutral point of view, it can be accepted. Alpha_Quadrant ^(talk) 19:49, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

ANI Notice regarding User:Stephfo

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.   — Jess· Δ♥ 21:24, 21 November 2011 (UTC) Pls. note I'd like to kindly ask you for explanation why I should be not allowed to learn 3rd-party expert analysis for my defence in anticipated arbitration, if there really is such policy (or in case it is deemed as more appropriate), then I'd like to ask you to perform such an investigation of WP:RSN of my resource used, details on my talk page. Thanks a lot in advance.--Stephfo (talk) 01:03, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Alpha Quadrant. You have new messages at [[User talk:--Stephfo (talk) 04:04, 30 November 2011 (UTC)|User talk:--Stephfo (talk) 04:04, 30 November 2011 (UTC)]].
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J. Hutton Pulitzer

Regarding your review of this draft article, I want to say "well done!" This encyclopedia should not be used as a vehicle to burnish someone's reputation. Thank you. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 07:08, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

TriTech Software Systems

I appreciate your message regarding the deletion of my addition. I neglected to fully learn and follow proper protocol when adding content to articles. If you can provide any assistance or insight, I would greatly appreciate it. Totally Rock (talk) 15:37, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

The sourcing you added was good quality. The only problem was that you copied the sources word for word into the Wikipedia article. As these sources are copyrighted, the information cannot be copied word for word. The content can be readded, as the information is relevant to the article. The information just needs to be written in a neutral point of view and using your own work. I had restored some of your changes, as they did not copy off of the sources and your changes added good information to the article. I haven't had the time as of yet, but I plan on going through the sources you added. They are good quality, and could can add information to the currently incomplete article. Thanks for finding the sources and for your work on the article. Best, Alpha_Quadrant ^(talk) 15:46, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Datavo Communications

Hi Alpha Quadrant, I wanted to give you a heads up that I've nominated Datavo Communications for AfD at: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Datavo Communications. I realize you reviewed this at AfC, so I wanted to give you the courtesy of a notification. As I mentioned in my nominating statement, I don't believe the sources show notability for Datavo, but I'd welcome your thoughts on the matter. Best, Sparthorse (talk) 21:25, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

Carl Eytel

Thank you, Alpha, most kindly for taking a look at my very first WP article. I am most surprised at the high ranking you gave in on the quality scale. Like Eytel, I am something of a desert rat -- I enjoy trekking across "barren wastelands" and stopping once in a while to enjoy the moment when I can reflect on or that I am a reflection on the [[Eye of God (disambiguation)}|Eye of God]]. After a while I will get up and trek myself to civilization. For my first WP article I was expecting a nice rating -- I was expecting a simple go/no-go on the article submission. So I am inspired to improve what I can properly link as Carl Eytel. --S. Rich (talk) 08:01, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

Feedback request on User:Timeport101/Verax_NMS

Hi Alpha Quadrant, first of all many thanks for reviewing my article. I've implemented your suggestions and added some additional references. In case of "worthy of inclusion" criteria: I wish to contribute to this great list Comparison_of_network_monitoring_systems. I've checked almost every software listed there and I consider notability of my article as equal as those listed there. If you had a time please take a look at my article and tell me if it's ready for another review. (I wasn't sure if it's OK to add subst:submit text before consulting it with you.)--Timeport101 (talk) 12:12, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

I had originally considered accepting it. However, I noticed that the article had previously been deleted three times as failing to demonstrate the subject's notability. If the article had 2-4 more news sources covering the subject, it would greatly assist in establishing the subject's notability. I think the article you wrote is well written. If you like, I can accept it for you now. However, that would run the chance that someone might nominate it for deletion as non-notable. If you want to add sources to the article, I can accept it after you do that. Best, Alpha_Quadrant ^(talk) 15:21, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

Alpha Quadrant , many thanks for your help! I've added another reference. I know that this article has a bad history - my bad, I was too eager to see my first wiki article up & running (I definitely won't do such a thing again). Is it ok for it to be accepted now?--Timeport101 (talk) 10:32, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

This username

Should I report User:Fuck the Yankees to WP:UAA, despite it being over 5 years after its creation and having never made an edit?--1966batfan (talk) 22:40, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

Username violations are generally not blocked unless they have edited in the past two weeks. As the user has never edited, and it has been five years, if the user were reported to UAA, it is highly unlike they would be blocked. Alpha_Quadrant ^(talk) 22:47, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

I, being a huge Yankees fan, find it extremely inappropriate and want it blocked.--1966batfan (talk) 01:41, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

Given that the account isn't currently editing, and hasn't ever edited, it will not be blocked until it does. Per the UAA guidelines, the account shouldn't be blocked until it edits. WP:UAAI states: "Do not report a username which has not made recent edits (within the last 2-3 weeks at the outside). Accounts that haven't edited in 3 weeks or more should not be reported." Blocks are used to prevent disruption or damage to Wikipedia. If an offensive username was created 5 years ago and still hasn't edited, then the account is not causing disruption by remaining unblocked. Alpha_Quadrant ^(talk) 01:50, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

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おつかれさまでして  Chzz  ►  01:31, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

User:DIREKTOR

Alpha_Quadrant, I sincerely hope you will follow some of the posts DIREKTOR mentions in the ongoing issue here. He's not being truthful to you, and is attempting to paint me with some weird sort of reputation. We exchanged words and I defended myself.

I wish you to know I am grateful for your intervention and for not involving me by notifying me. Luckily I watch DIREKTOR every once in a while - without communicating at all - to see what he's doing. AQ, he's done this to other users! Djathinkimacowboy 08:12, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

I stepped back from that discussion. Discussing the issues with him is fairly pointless, as he is unwilling to consider the possibility that he may be wrong. Alpha Quadrant (alt) ^talk 16:31, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

Your kindness and understanding is on full display, as always. Thank you Alpha_Quadrant. Djathinkimacowboy 03:19, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

Removal and Deletion of Images and Related Issues

You are involved in a recently filed request for arbitration. Please review the request at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests#Removal and Deletion of Images and Related Issues and, if you wish to do so, enter your statement and any other material you wish to submit to the Arbitration Committee. Additionally, the following resources may be of use—

• Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests#Requests for Arbitration;
• Wikipedia:Arbitration guide.

Thanks, Virago250 (talk) 05:29, November 27, 2011‎ (UTC)

mischief by one user

hi, One user 175.106.57.124 (talk)) is continously puttin the wrong data in India national football team page.How to stop/block him? THANKS....Preetam040 (talk) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Preetam040 (talk

It appears the IP is no longer editing. I am not sure any action is warranted at this time. Alpha_Quadrant ^(talk) 21:39, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

Help with editing reference list

Hi Alpha Quadrant, I wanted to make some changes to the reference list for the wikipedia article that I submitted for the Africa/Harvard School of Public Health Partnership for Cohort Research and Training, by adding hyperlinks to them and also noticed that the format of some of the references is different from what I had initially put. The reference list seems to have been condensed to just reflist|2 from an actual list of each reference that is included. How can I make the changes that I want to make, given that the references are not listed anymore? Thanks in advance. PaCtuser (talk) 01:00, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

To add references to the article you can use <ref> and </ref> tags. Add the <ref> tag right after the sentence you want to cite with the reference. Then you can type in the reference information, and add a </ref> tag at the end. The reference will automatically appear underneath the reference list. Referencing for beginners might be helpful. Best wishes, Alpha_Quadrant ^(talk) 21:39, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

Star Trek

		The Quasar Barnstar
		For unsurpassed and kind illumination of the way things are done logically. Djathinkimacowboy 03:25, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

AQ, what do you like best about "Star Trek"? I don't wish to pry about, but I have been an original fan and pretty die-hard ever since. My brothers met Leonard Nimoy. I may be the last to seem the type, but I even have an official Vulcan name.

We used to have a small internet group that discussed logic and Vulcan history. T'Chai is the username of my closest old colleague: she was a physician in London but is gone from our scene now. And my favourite fiction book of all time is Diane Duane's Spock's World. Second favourite is D. C. Fontana's Vulcan's Glory. Djathinkimacowboy 03:25, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

I have never really though about what I consider to be the best. I'd probably say Star Trek: First Contact. The film was well made and it tied elements from four of the six series together. Alpha_Quadrant ^(talk) 21:39, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

Agreed. Jonathan Frakes has always been too inactive as a director, through no fault of his own. My dream has always been to see Spock's World made into a film. Djathinkimacowboy 14:31, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

Emergency here!!

Hello. You have a new message at Djathinkimacowboy's talk page.

Asda store

Hi Alpha_Quadrant,

I am at the end of my tether regarding the Asda store saga - I have put my final position on the talk page. If the other two do not agree, I will be left with no option but to withdraw from mediation and to make a formal complaint regarding POV. The bottom line is that Defacto has been on an anti-metric crusade and he will not let go of the Asda "survey" which asserted that 79% of the Asda's customers were confused by metric units and preferred imperial units - he is either too stupid, too arrogant or too blind to acknowledge that this survey was built on sand, not rock. I don't know what your background is in mathematically-related topics, but to me it lacked all the hallmarks of a properly run survey. A large nubmer of other editors agreed with me, but they just did not have the tuime to argue with these two.

We now have the position that I have a reliable soruce that has produced the strongest possible circumstantial evidence that the Asda experiment is over. DeFacto has demanded a postiive statemetn to this effect, but I believe that he is too dumb to realise that there will never be a public statement because Asda will not issue one - who publishes their failures? Martinvl (talk) 16:15, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

Hi Alpha Quadrant,

Defacto has flatly refused to accept my position and I therefore cannot see any point in this mediation continuing. Can I thank you for what you have done.

Martinvl (talk) 19:58, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

Arbitration request

[1]. Filing party still hasn't taken the hint and notified you, and the clerks seem to be on a long weekend :) As NYB says, I think all this needs is someone to explain our policies to the other editor. --Elen of the Roads (talk) 16:59, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the notification. I was trying to figure out what the meaning of this talkback message was for. I have had a brief wikibreak the last few days, and I haven't been around to make replies. This is the first I have heard of this issue. All I did was remove several images tagged as non-free, as they failed NFCC 10c. I'll take a look and see if I can assist in resolving the issue. Alpha_Quadrant ^(talk) 21:39, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

• Gotta love it. --Hammersoft (talk) 01:12, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

afc

You seem to have approved the creation of Ellis Hicks, from afc, moved on Nov 22. I've just marked it as a copyvio of http://www.geni.com/people/Sir-Knight-Ellis-Hicks/6000000009659982767 Was I in error? DGG ( talk ) 01:02, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

According to the site's terms of use, the information on the site is not copyrighted. It does appear that the site is also a wiki, making the information somewhat unreliable. Alpha_Quadrant ^(talk) 01:09, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

The site says the poster retain ownership, "Geni does not claim any ownership rights in the text, information, files, images, photos, video, sounds, musical works, works of authorship, or any other materials that you post to the Geni Services" not that the material is PD--so she'd have to donate it formally. (There's a confusing statement that they giver the site the license to do what they want with it, "solely on and through the Geni Services")/ If she objects, I'll tell her to start over. DGG ( talk ) 01:19, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

It appears that section 4 of their terms of service prohibits commercial use of content. Section 6 states that the site does not claim ownership on any of the content added by users, but does claim copyright on work created by the company. Section 9 prohibits the addition of copyrighted material. My mistake, it does appear that the content would be incompatible with Wikipedia's license. Thanks for pointing out my error. Best, Alpha_Quadrant ^(talk) 01:32, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

TriTech Software Systems

Hi there, I see that you deleted the multiple sections. I think they are needed because they are listed in history, so a chronological timeline makes sense. I will make them more generic and not too granular.Pumpkin Pancakes (talk) 15:30, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

I agree that the events should be listed in chronological order. However, the events really don't have major notability. There are one or two mentions in reliable sources, however, the information doesn't really warrant an entire sub-section. We need to be careful in establishing proper weight for the information that is included. Some of the events now in the article don't really warrant inclusion. It would probably be best if we continued the discussion at Talk:TriTech Software Systems. Alpha_Quadrant ^(talk) 18:27, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

Canada Education Program: deletion?

Hello, I tried to post my mandatory contribution for the Intellectual Property project. The topic is "Introduction to trade-mark law in Canada; passing off" (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Introduction_to_trademark_law_in_Canada;_passing_off&action=edit&redlink=1). It has been deleted because there's already a page covering trade-marks in general... Any idea what I should do? Thanks a lot! Camiliac (talk) 22:57, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

It appears that the subject already has an article at Canadian trade-mark law. The existing article is fairly short. You could work on expanding the existing article. If you don't have a copy of Introduction to trademark law in Canada; passing off, I can probably get you a copy of the article. Alpha_Quadrant ^(talk) 23:19, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

Violation of topic ban

I'd appreciate it if you would have a talk with Stepho and make sure he understands what a topic ban means and what he is allowed to edit, and what not. I'm not quite sure he gets it. Thanks. Dominus Vobisdu (talk) 23:51, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks a big bunch! Hope that helps. Dominus Vobisdu (talk) 23:58, 1 December 2011 (UTC)