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Accusing me of "vandalism" is accusing me of editing in bad faith.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Colt_SSP&diff=731001774&oldid=730888584] That's a violation of the ArbCom's discretionary sanctions. [[User:Felsic2|Felsic2]] ([[User talk:Felsic2|talk]]) 15:30, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
Accusing me of "vandalism" is accusing me of editing in bad faith.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Colt_SSP&diff=731001774&oldid=730888584] That's a violation of the ArbCom's discretionary sanctions. [[User:Felsic2|Felsic2]] ([[User talk:Felsic2|talk]]) 15:30, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
:You might not be aware of the discretionary sanctions, thought notices are on many firearms-related talk pages. Just in case, here's the formal message. [[User:Felsic2|Felsic2]] ([[User talk:Felsic2|talk]]) 15:35, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

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There is no such thing as a machine revolver.

Seriously, I can find no sources that use the term that aren't mirrors of Wikipedia's old page, and a Google search mostly consists of the lyrics to a song by Rage Against The Machine called "revolver." The term as you're using it is so entirely undefined it apparently includes everything from semi-automatic revolvers to aircraft cannons. Fails WP:NEO. Herr Gruber (talk) 08:21, 11 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I wouldnt use the term to label aircraft cannons in particular, or semi-automatic revolvers (unless they were full automatic) but possibly scaled down derivatives of revolver cannons like the ShKAS and DCR rifle. There was an article about someone who removed the recoil plate from a revolver which enabled the pistol to discharge all 6 rounds in the cylinder. However i would consider "machine revolver" as an unofficial term

Vjvjfjnbhvnvfnfv 12:55, 11/01/2011 (UTC)

There is a semi-automatic revolver in the Webley FosberryDigitallymade (talk) 20:08, 15 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

TDI Vector K10

I decided that multicaliber variant of TDI Vector called K10, It needing more refences, needing add more cartridges and update the information of the variant. Thank you. --Kungfu2187 (talk) 09:31, 4 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

A belated welcome!

Sorry for the belated welcome, but the cookies are still warm!

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Re: Reception

Why do you act like I'm quoting a user review? I am quoting an editorial critic review, which notes that the game received higher fan reception. Are we at a misunderstanding of what the review is I'm quoting, or do you think the editor makes an invalid point? GameLegend (talk) 11:37, 13 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

RE:Warshaw

I started a discussion at Talk:E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial (video game)#Warshaw's comment on cartridge burial regarding our edits. Please feel free to comment there. (Guyinblack25 talk 14:35, 5 October 2011 (UTC))[reply]

"Citation trolling"

I'd be grateful if you could explain what you meant by this edit and edit summary. Thanks. --Dweller (talk) 06:38, 31 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Re: AMPV

I wasn't saying the AMPV program was replacing the GCV program. I was saying replacement of the M113 vehicle has primarily gone to the AMPV. That specifically says "replace the M113," while the GCV says pretty much all U.S. APCs, primarily the M2 Bradley. I don't know if specific M113 replacement has gone entirely to the seperate program, or if the two overlap, just that the AMPV prototype vehicles are completely different from those made for the GCV. (America789 (talk) 15:45, 18 November 2012 (UTC))[reply]

I still said it's being replaced and that replacement of the M113 only has gone to the AMPV program. (America789 (talk) 20:45, 19 November 2012 (UTC))[reply]

Korean "conflict" armistice

Korean "conflict" armistice abrogated yesterday, so check your daily news to see if it's a war, or not. Perhaps it belongs in category "Unresolved conflicts that occasionally resemble war". --Pawyilee (talk) 09:57, 12 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Mike Sparks?

I don't know or care what beef you have with one web publisher (Mike Sparks) but if you don't stop throwing the baby out with the bath water re: removing EL's, published "Mike Sparks" articles, or hosted articles that have nothing to do with Mike Sparksdiffdiffdiff I am going to take it to ANI. Fountains of Bryn Mawr (talk) 20:26, 12 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

If you think you there is more here than what seems to be your opinion re: a source by a crank and a liar full of altered or forged documents then put it up here. Please do not blank material based on your opinion. Fountains of Bryn Mawr (talk) 20:12, 13 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The reason to link an online copy of a source is so that other editors can read it and check the source/wording/make changes. Something you need in a collaborative encyclopedia. Fountains of Bryn Mawr (talk) 01:41, 14 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Notice

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ET Dump Edit

Per WP:BRD, you need to build consensus for your version on the talk page. By continuing to include information after it has been removed by several editors, you are engaging in what wikipedia considers to be disruptive behavior. I would be happy to discuss your edit on the article talk page, but your combative stance helps no one. Your characterization of the ET dump as "fact" rather than "speculation" does not hold up in reliable sources. For each source you add to the article that states it as fact, I can add another that calls it an alleged burial. Again, there is no doubt that Atari dumped truckloads of cartridges, parts, and equipment at Alamogordo. The part that cannot be confirmed is what percentage of that was an ET dump or whether millions of ET cartridges were dumped. Anyway, I hope we can discuss this more on the talk page. If not, remedial action may need to be taken. Wikipedia runs on consensus. Indrian (talk) 17:09, 13 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • Thanks for the change, that works for me, as it makes it clear that sources are drawing a conclusion rather than asserting a fact through actual physical evidence. Indrian (talk) 17:50, 13 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Puckle Thanks

Just want to say thank-you for all the excellent work you have done on the Puckle page, especially finding sources for the terminology and clarifying details.Jmackaerospace (talk) 00:57, 31 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi,
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Could you help me with something?

As you seem to know quite a bit about guns I was wondering if you could tell me what type of system is the one described below? I found it in the book 'Firearms Past and Present' page 312 by Jaroslav Lugs if you want to look it up.

'These early experiments involved redesigning the Werndl rifle so that the gas compressed the striker, which opened the breech, ejected the spent cartridge case, and re-cocked the mechanism. It operated by means of a lengthened striker which was driven backwards by gas pressure. The cartridge case has a recessed primer pocket which allowed the primer to slide backwards at the moment of discharge and so drive the striker to the rear, causing the latter to cock the trigger and operate the automatic mechanism of the rifle, to which it was linked.'

I was also wondering what you would make of the patent linked to below (you can download a PDF of the original document if you find the presentation of the website hard to understand). Could you tell me how it was loaded, as I'm having trouble understanding it myself?

https://www.google.com/patents/US4510523:06, SQMeaner 14 June 2016 (UTC)

Let's dial this back

I think both of us want the same thing, a better AR-15 article. We've both spent a lot of time concerned more with each other than that goal. I'm going to focus on that and that alone. What do you say? Niteshift36 (talk) 17:21, 6 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I want a LOT better page for AR type rifles, not a lot of confused mush. I also want to address the community of AR buiders. It's the modularity and extreme customization ability of AR type rifles, but not the AR-15 (a Colt Trademark) that has been responsible for the 6 million sales of such rifles in a short period of time (don't ask me for a source, I've also seen 11 million mentioned since O'Bama was elected). The AR platform has become of the most important sporting firearms platforms in history. Some narrow minded people don't seem to realize why this is.Digitallymade (talk) 20:13, 15 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Asking you for a source is a constant on Wikipedia. If there isn't a reliable source for it, then it doesn't belong on here. This is a basic tenant you have to learn. This is an encyclopedia, not a place to "address the community". You can address them at AR15.com. Niteshift36 (talk) 00:08, 16 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Notice of Neutral point of view noticeboard discussion

Hello, Herr Gruber. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Neutral point of view/Noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.

AR-15 is a trademark of Colt Patent Firearms Company Comment

The fact that others may use this indiscriminately should not be followed here. Colt's not likely to sue you for this as it's free, biased advertising. Those of use who write firearms history, in general, refer to AR type rifles. This is part of parcel of the tremendous problem of misrepresentation of AR type rifles in the MEDIA which we are fighting to reduce.

Wikipedia has a major problem. All of what is quoted is copyrighted and much of it is wrong. Some of us know the truth. But Wiki pedia is controlled by people with agendas who often oppose accurate information. No school, no educated person, accepts ANYTHING in Wikipedia as authoritative. So it's only value is in pointing to supposedly better and more authoritative information, which does sometimes occur. I stopped editing wiki pages about ten years ago because of the insistence by some people on false information. There is too much propaganda on this site.. Digitallymade (talk) 20:37, 15 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I really don't understand the communications between users on this site

It's not just the 6 million sold in the last couple of years. It's the entire body of firearms that are reloadable. That's at 300 million plus. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Digitallymade (talkcontribs) 21:01, 15 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! There is a DR/N request you may have interest in.

This message is being sent to let you know of a discussion at the Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard regarding a content dispute discussion you may have participated in. Content disputes can hold up article development and make editing difficult for editors. You are not required to participate, but you are both invited and encouraged to help this dispute come to a resolution. Please join us to help form a consensus. Thank you! Felsic2 (talk) 14:50, 22 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism accusation

Accusing me of "vandalism" is accusing me of editing in bad faith.[1] That's a violation of the ArbCom's discretionary sanctions. Felsic2 (talk) 15:30, 22 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You might not be aware of the discretionary sanctions, thought notices are on many firearms-related talk pages. Just in case, here's the formal message. Felsic2 (talk) 15:35, 22 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Discretionary sanctions

Please carefully read this information:

The Arbitration Committee has authorised discretionary sanctions to be used for pages regarding governmental regulation of firearm ownership; the social, historical and political context of such regulation; and the people and organizations associated with these issues, a topic which you have edited. The Committee's decision is here.

Discretionary sanctions is a system of conduct regulation designed to minimize disruption to controversial topics. This means uninvolved administrators can impose sanctions for edits relating to the topic that do not adhere to the purpose of Wikipedia, our standards of behavior, or relevant policies. Administrators may impose sanctions such as editing restrictions, bans, or blocks. This message is to notify you sanctions are authorised for the topic you are editing. Before continuing to edit this topic, please familiarise yourself with the discretionary sanctions system. Don't hesitate to contact me or another editor if you have any questions.

This message is informational only and does not imply misconduct regarding your contributions to date.

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