User talk:Onceinawhile

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Criticism of Israel article

Will you be doing more editing on that article? Koakhtzvigad (talk) 11:26, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Criticism of the Israeli government

Hi. Please familiarize yourself with Wikipedia's rules concerning free images (those unencumbered by copyright) and the fair use of non-free images. We can use a photo of a book cover only to illustrate an article that discusses the book, and even then the image needs a fair use rationale. — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 23:37, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Note to Once: There are fossils of various types in the area, but
when referring to the past 99 centuries, 'fossil' would not apply.

Request for sources in Talk:Palestine

I'm on the road and can't remember my password, which is not stored in this laptop.

To incorporate all those points in the article, with references, would require substantial editing, which I predict would be resisted.

Also, I would prefer if the article was defined, and its structure stabilised before these points are added.

What do you think? Koakhtzvigad 58.178.163.234 (talk) 02:09, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

I had in mind that if you could source those statements and the underlying conclusion, we would be able to build consensus to use it to structure the article. Oncenawhile (talk) 02:13, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Jewish revolt against Heraclius

Following your work on Nehemiah ben Hushiel, I created a page on Benjamin of Tiberias. Let's keep on this project and thank you for cooperation.Greyshark09 (talk) 16:53, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Made general updates on Jewish revolt against Heraclius, you are welcome to contribute more.Greyshark09 (talk) 13:27, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

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Juedeo-Aramaic on Bar Kokhba coinage?

I'm at a loss to understand why you keep pushing that label on the coins. You provide two refs, yet neither uses that term. Then there are other sources which explicitly place the text as Paleo-Hebrew: Bar Kokhba Coins from Masada, 132-135 CE and Bar Kokhba Coin, 132-135 CE. Any reason not to revert? Poliocretes (talk) 09:56, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

Disruptive Editing

I have noticed you changing multiple links on Wikipedia from History of the Southern Levant to History of Palestine. Here, here, here as well as here where you rather directed away from the page. I understand that you are upset that your name change was not successful, however to simply change all of the wikipedia links to your new article is WP:Disruptive Editing Wikipedia:Disruptive_editing Please read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Don%27t_disrupt_Wikipedia_to_make_a_point Drsmoo (talk) 21:57, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

You are correct that these links were changed, but your understanding of the rationale is not correct. You will be aware that Southern Levant defines a wider area (or set of areas) than Palestine, and that certain articles are more relevant to former rather than the latter. The three articles in question all discuss topics which are more relevant to Palestine than the Southern Levant as shown below:

• Archaeology of Israel - includes two references to Palestine, and discusses the West Bank, but does not mention Southern Levant anywhere
• History of Zionism - includes over 100 references to Palestine, as Zionism and the concept of Palestine are intrinsically linked. No mention of Southern Levant
• History of the Jews in the Land of Israel - includes 35 references to Palestine and only one to Southern Levant. The article is about the historical narrative of zionism, and therefore as above is intrinsically linked to the concept of palestine
• Land of Israel#Historical Kingdoms - this link was changed to History of ancient Israel and Judah, not History of Palestine - if you read the article you will note that such a link is more appropriate.

Please could you kindly self-revert?

Oncenawhile (talk) 08:52, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

The Southern Levant is synonymous with both Israel, Palestine and Jordan, a history of the Southern Levant includes a history of ancient Israel and Palestine, which is the reason the links were chosen. Substituting the links from a History of the Southern Levant to a History of Palestine only provides less relevant information, as for example, the ancient kingdoms of Israel and Judah extended into Jordan and Syria. You could have simply added a link to the History of Palestine, it's the replacing of one link with the other which I find confusing. Drsmoo (talk) 17:53, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

I agree with your last point - I was thinking that when I saw you do exactly the same with your reverts. Oncenawhile (talk) 00:12, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

If you agreed with my last point then you shouldn't have done it in the first place. I simply reverted the edits because it was quicker. If you had added a link to History of Palestine without removing anything, I wouldn't have changed it. Nor will I change it if you add the links now/in the future. Drsmoo (talk) 00:44, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

Template moving

I just saw what you and TheCuriousGnome did this evening. While you may blame TheCuriousGnome for starting it, you should not have reverted. I reported TheCuriousGnome at WP:ANEW; I have half a mind to report you too. — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 03:03, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Hi Malik, ok thanks for letting me know - am sorry to hear that. Please could you explain why I should not have reverted - I honestly thought i had been acting as a model wiki-zen? Oncenawhile (talk) 03:28, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Hi. Sorry if I came on too strong. You had no way of knowing how TheCuriousGnome would respond, but your revert seems to have provoked a strong reaction. I guess it's a good thing you stopped when you did. — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 03:48, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

I think it would be best if everybody stopped worrying about the name of the template and tried to focus instead on its content, don't you? — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 23:08, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Frankly, I think you should heed the advice User:EdJohnston gave at WP:ANEW: "Anyone who proposes to reorganize templates in the I/P area needs a lot of patience and ought to listen carefully for consensus."

But move it if you must. I won't interfere. — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 02:28, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

I've already explained why I don't think it should be moved. On top of that, anybody who types Template:Palestine topics is redirected to the new name. If you feel so strongly about moving the template, please find another administrator and convince her/him to move it. — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 02:50, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

RM alert

There's a move request discussion going on at Talk:Foreign relations of the Palestinian National Authority#Requested move, with which you were previously involved. I'd be grateful if you could contribute to the new discussion. Nightw 08:23, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Timeline of the region of Palestine

Since I know you have a lot of knowledge in the subject matter I would gladly appreciate any help you can provide in improving this article (which I have recently created). TheCuriousGnome (talk) 14:21, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

TCG, thanks for your message. I saw your new article, which I think is a good idea. I can add a lot to it pretty quickly, but I have a few reservations. Firstly, the name, which I would prefer to be consistent with "History of Palestine", but could live with "History of Palestine (region)". Secondly, there are a few (not many) statements in there at the moment which are wrong, and I do not want to get into another edit war with you. I am still very disappointed with what happened with Template:Palestine topics - our positions were not far apart, but our interaction undermined the template rather than improved it. So I am in two minds... Oncenawhile (talk) 16:20, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Indeed this is not an easy topic to cover. I want this article to contain all major events in the region of Palestine which are significant to ALL parties. This is a task which I would not be able to achieve by myself - I need the assistance of many contributers from many different backgrounds to work together to achieve this goal. Since I know you have a lot of information in this field, I was hoping you would be able to cooperate with me to achieve this goal. All the events which are currently covered in the article (as well as the phrasing of the sentences) are open for further discussion among the contributers of the article, especially in any future cases of disagreement among contributors, in order for us to achieve an accurate, well written, comprehensive article which would be phrased in an unbiased way. I myself am also still unhappy with the recent difference of opinions and related edit war over what content should be included in the namespace "Template:Palestine topics". Either way, I would completely understand if at this point you would choose to decline my offer. TheCuriousGnome (talk) 19:45, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Pally people

Don't throw around accusations like vandalism. All the material I removed was POV and unsupported/based on poor sources.

All the things I added was good, encyclopedic info.

Am I mistaken? Can you show me what? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.160.54.164 (talk) 19:53, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

RM alert

The move request at Talk:Foreign relations of the Palestinian National Authority was closed, so we're now taking suggestions for an alternative. As you were involved in the previous discussion, I'd be grateful if you could contribute to the new one. Please lodge your support for a proposal, or make one of your own. Nightw 04:22, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Bar Kochba Coins

Sorry, changed my mind. I don't see why a fringe theory should receive such prominence. If you believe this is not the case, feel free to provide references to support your position. I have started a discussion on the article talk page and will notify the relevant wikiprojects. Poliocretes (talk) 15:40, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Demographics

Hy Oncenawhile Yes I made two corrections.Fist I corrected the name of the chapter as all sources given indicate eighter relative or absolute Jewish majority.I don't see any conflicting results given.Second the reference Harrel and Stendel, 1974 was quoted twice,once correctly which I left and second time incorrectly,(showing two different results).I removed it. Third I didn't remove the only source indicating Muslim plurality in section 1830-69: Conflicting estimates regarding Muslim or Jewish plurality ref Yigal Shiloh, 1980 [11]although the page given is nonfunctional. There was one additional quote given which didn't match the source which was given.I would like to see that quote on the page,but given correctly without misleading interpretations — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tritomex (talk • contribs) 18:39, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Palestine

There was no reason to revert the page... It was only a few sentences and before that there was only three or four words mentioning the Achemenid Empire or on Persian influence over the area while mentioning a lot of the Roman and Arab influence. Please do not revert a page simply based on your own opinions as you did on the article Palestine. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xythianos (talk • contribs) 19:24, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

Nomination of Who is a Palestinian? for deletion

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Merge discussion for Al-Sinnabra

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Merging

Please express your opinion over the relisted suggestion to merge the article Violence in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict into Timeline of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Both articles are substantially the same, and shouldn't exist in separate. You can participate in the discussion here Talk:Violence in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict#Merging with Timeline of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.Greyshark09 (talk) 19:21, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

==History of the name Palestine==

Hi Oncenawhile

I do not see any reason for removing my section to this article. All sources are well documented and are strictly related to this subject.You can edit, expand this section and merge it with my text. The etymology section, is the first chapter in every Wikipedia article, relating to other nations as well. I strongly believe that there is need for this chapter, as this is the only place were details regarding the etymology of the name Palestine can be explained. The fact that parts of this section may relate to the Philistines doesn't exclude the need for the existence of this chapter here. Therefore, please do not delete my contribution but expand it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tritomex (talk • contribs) 09:35, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

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False edit summary

In this edit summary you accused me of not participating at all at the talk page. Your accusation is false. Please refactor your accusation and your edit once you're at it. Thanks. --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 17:03, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

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Siege of Jerusalem

Hi Oncenawhile, thank you for taking the time to add to the article, but I do feel that much of the detail is rather irrelevant to the subject matter. It turns the background the into the heart of the article. For instance, I don't see how the carving of Judea into 5 districts has anything to do with the siege. I'm therefore removing certain setences, but I'll be sure to leave informative edit summeries if you with to contest my edits. Poliocretes (talk) 16:56, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

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I shouldn't.... but ...

... LOL ... talknic (talk) 18:00, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

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Palestinian Citizenship 1925

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Naming Conventions for Locations in Jerusalem

Hi, I've put up a proposal re: Naming Conventions for Locations in Jerusalem here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Israel_Palestine_Collaboration/Current_Article_Issues#Naming_Conventions_for_Locations_in_Jerusalem) and would very much appreciate any comments you have on this issue. BothHandsBlack (talk) 19:04, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Truman trusteeship proposal

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Edits on Palestine

Hi, I'm the admin who fully protected Palestine. After reviewing the edit history a second time, I notice that your edits are just barely within what is allowed at those articles. That is, all articles related to the Arab-Israeli conflict are under what is called general sanctions and 1RR as a result of the arbitration decision found at WP:ARBPIA. While your edits never cross 1RR, you came very close. Between the first edit and the the second one there was a period of just over 27 hours, and between the second and the third one was a period of less than 25 hours. It looks like you're trying to "get in" your one edit per day as soon as possible. Please note, though, that even though 1 revert per day is the limit, it's not an entitlement--you can be blocked for showing a period of edit warring over time. Please consider this a formal warning under WP:ARBPIA (which I'll log), and know that any further disruption can result in your account being blocked. Qwyrxian (talk) 23:48, 15 January 2012 (UTC)