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I have seen that you gave [[User:Thepharoah17]] an autopatrolled tag. I would like to question this decision, as I sometimes actually copy edit his pages like the [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Amanda_Figueras&diff=982278818&oldid=982274235&diffmode=source Amanda Figueras]which he created on the 7 October, just 10 days before you granted him autopatrolled rights. This article was mainly a copy paste of a biography of hers which I also wrote in the edit summary of the edit. I guess ThePharoah17 could wait a bit for being granted this rights.[[User:Paradise Chronicle|Paradise Chronicle]] ([[User talk:Paradise Chronicle|talk]]) 10:10, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
I have seen that you gave [[User:Thepharoah17]] an autopatrolled tag. I would like to question this decision, as I sometimes actually copy edit his pages like the [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Amanda_Figueras&diff=982278818&oldid=982274235&diffmode=source Amanda Figueras]which he created on the 7 October, just 10 days before you granted him autopatrolled rights. This article was mainly a copy paste of a biography of hers which I also wrote in the edit summary of the edit. I guess ThePharoah17 could wait a bit for being granted this rights.[[User:Paradise Chronicle|Paradise Chronicle]] ([[User talk:Paradise Chronicle|talk]]) 10:10, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

FYI, this is coming from somebody who accused me [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AAdministrators%27_noticeboard%2FEdit_warring&type=revision&diff=989145983&oldid=989134031 here] of being an "ISIS sympathizer" just because I said there is no difference between them and the PKK [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=988287419&oldid=988286221&diffmode=source here]. And by the way America does not even support the YPG. They just used them to defeat ISIS and once ISIS was defeated, America abandoned them as it did last year when Turkey invaded northeastern Syria since they are in fact no different from the PKK. [[User:Thepharoah17|Thepharoah17]] ([[User talk:Thepharoah17|talk]]) 13:26, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

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Thanks Swarm for your honest comment. -Darouet (talk) 03:26, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello Swarm (talk), I just thought I would take you up on your offer to ask questions on your talk page about my recent application to be granted template editor rights. I read through what you had posted in denying my request. You make a lot of salient points. I get it now. Specifically, my right to WP:TPE was revoked because what I did wrong was that I failed to engage other editors in a discussion about the Denver Broncos color scheme over at WT:NFL (that discussion is here). I get it. I know now that what I should have done differently is that I should have engaged other editors in that discussion and should not have unilaterally made changes at Module:Gridiron color/data without first engaging in a discussion that should have resulted in a WP:CONSENSUS all interested editors could live with. If I were to submit another request to be granted WP:TPE rights, what I would & should do differently is to not unilaterally edit protected templates that go against the WP:CONSENSUS. I also know better that I definitely should not constantly revert myself repeatedly over protected templates. OK, on to your next point. Let me specifically explain my current understanding of the rules. I understand that the template editor right is a right reserved for highly technically competent editors. It's reserved for editors who are experienced in dispute resolution and for editors who are highly competent with coding. As you said, it is a high stakes user right. I understand that changes to protected modules (unless they are fixes of obvious markup errors, for example) should only be made after substantial discussion, and should conform to the agreed upon WP:CONSENSUS, per WP:TPECON. I also understand that I need to know WP:TPECON front and back. That part I get. The last thing I want to say is this: I need guidance as to how to improve and become more competent in the Template space, and to understand the rules and conditions of the Template editor user right. Could you please help? Also, have I addressed some of your concerns? If not, how can I address them better? Charlesaaronthompson (talk) 01:42, 4 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Another twist

Following up from AE, it looks like nobody has objected to the topic ban, but I noticed something else when I went to log my removal of the Consensus Required sanction: the Consensus Required sanction had never been logged in the first place. JzG only logged a 1RR restriction. (Not sure if it was a one-off mistake or their real intent, but the next month they correctly logged this one as Consensus Required.) In any case I'm not sure what to do with this now. I'd feel weird enforcing the sanction down to the "letter of the law" while ignoring the other "letter of the law" stating that for a sanction to be valid it must be properly logged. ~Awilley (talk) 20:35, 4 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Nevermind. After closely reading the page at AC/CS I didn't find anything that explicitly says that the mis-logging makes the sanction invalid. And Thucydides411's latest comment (showing SPECIFICO correctly explaining the sanction to other users when it was to their advantage) convinced me that this is a clear case of gaming. ~Awilley (talk) 16:30, 5 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Is there some reason why you would not have this discussion in view of the participants at AE? If you'll take a close look at the AE and my many other comments on the subject of "longstanding" and "consensus" on talk pages and Admin talk page threads, you'll note I said "longstanding consensus", not "longstanding text." I have emphasized that in my view, age alone is not implicit consensus and that any text that actually has consensus will have been discussed on talk or can easily be confirmed to have current consensus. That is not the case here, as shown in the talk page thread. Anyway, I think it's clear from the AE thread that at least @JzG: does not appear to think a sanction is in order and that others, who enabled Awilley to deprecate the Consenus Required sanction, cannot implicitly be taken to favor a restriction that was removed for cause. Main point is just that I don't think side discussions on an open matter are the best approach. I just happened to see this by chance, and others may not have. SPECIFICO talk 16:41, 5 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Wishing Swarm a very happy adminship anniversary on behalf of the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! History DMZ (talk)+(ping) 01:03, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Adminship Anniversary!

Happy adminship anniversary!!!! --TheSandDoctor Talk 14:33, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Autopatroll for Thepharoah17

I have seen that you gave User:Thepharoah17 an autopatrolled tag. I would like to question this decision, as I sometimes actually copy edit his pages like the Amanda Figueraswhich he created on the 7 October, just 10 days before you granted him autopatrolled rights. This article was mainly a copy paste of a biography of hers which I also wrote in the edit summary of the edit. I guess ThePharoah17 could wait a bit for being granted this rights.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 10:10, 26 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

FYI, this is coming from somebody who accused me here of being an "ISIS sympathizer" just because I said there is no difference between them and the PKK here. And by the way America does not even support the YPG. They just used them to defeat ISIS and once ISIS was defeated, America abandoned them as it did last year when Turkey invaded northeastern Syria since they are in fact no different from the PKK. Thepharoah17 (talk) 13:26, 26 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]