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Welcome

Hello, Syntacticus, and welcome to Wikipedia. Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. If you are stuck, and looking for help, please come to the New contributors' help page, where experienced Wikipedians can answer any queries you have! Or, you can just type {{helpme}} on your user page, and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

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Ah-hah! I got to welcome you twice!

That's a cool username, by the way. Cheers, CWC(talk) 11:44, 8 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Chris. I thought it was an appropriate nom de plume. Syntacticus 04:52, 9 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

July 2008

Welcome to Wikipedia. We welcome and appreciate your contributions, including your edits to Barack Obama, but we regretfully cannot accept original research. Original research also encompasses novel, unpublished syntheses of previously published material. Please be prepared to cite a reliable source for all of your information. Thank you. -- Scjessey (talk) 02:05, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, thank you. I have been editing entries for a long time and am aware of the rules. You appear to have jumped the gun: I am not finished this edit yet. Best. Syntacticus (talk) 02:19, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to Wikipedia, and thank you for your contributions, including your edits to Barack Obama. However, please be aware of Wikipedia's policy that biographical information about living persons must not be libelous. Any controversial statements about a living person added to an article, or any other Wikipedia page, must include proper sources. Your edits cited a reference that cannot be considered a reliable source by any conceivable measure. Please discuss additions of a contentious nature on Talk:Barack Obama before making them. -- Scjessey (talk) 02:47, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not leave messages on the userpage of other editors. Please use a user's talk page for leaving comments. -- Scjessey (talk) 02:57, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Your edits present serious concerns, including but not limited to WP:BLP. Per Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle I've reverted to the previous version. Please open a discussion on the talk page if you truly feel this content must be included. --Clubjuggle ^T/C 02:59, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Also, please be civil, focus your comments on content, not contributors, and assume good faith when dealing with other editors. Thank you. --Clubjuggle ^T/C 03:06, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Warning

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Barack Obama. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue dispute resolution. Brothejr (talk) 12:52, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re Bill Ayers @ Barack Obama

Hang on! Inclusionists have been promised that the talk page will be dedicated to the issue next (or else perhaps after a reexaminion of the material concerning the Reverend Wright. Not that this will necessarily happen before election day.) ;^) $\sim$ Justmeherenow ( ) 14:50, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Syntacticus, if you look over the page and the archives at Talk:Barack Obama you'll find that long, long debates have been going on for months (at least since April, I joined in late May) about including material about Ayers and Wright. What I've found so far is that the more specific discussions become about proposed language, the more people argue constructively. Talking in general terms about the article's bias not only doesn't embarass most of the editors here, it makes them cover their ears and shout louder. Overall, I agree with your points, but recognize that it's going to take a consensus to get anything in the article. For me, improving the article is the goal, so I'm sticking to proposals of specific language. If you look over the archives, you'll be able to anticipate the arguments from Scjessey and others. Scjessey's ultimate argument, after everything else is WP:WEIGHT / WP:UNDUE and saying that a summary article should have few details in it. Keep in mind that nearly all of these political biography articles have a majority of supporters camping out in them. We, on the other hand, have facts, reason and policy/guidelines on our side. It's still going to take a compromise to get anything in, and people on both sides are willing to discuss at length. We have several admins looking over our shoulders, and they're looking out for WP:CIVIL, WP:NPA and WP:3RR violations. Other than that, welcome! Noroton (talk) 16:34, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

November 2008

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, we would like to remind you not to attack other editors, as you did on Talk:Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now. Please comment on the contributions and not the contributors. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Gamaliel (talk) 17:19, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Syntacticus, you're absolutely right of course, but we must be extremely, extremely careful about impugning the motives of this particular group of editors. They are well-organized off-Wiki, there are a lot of them, the administrators are friendly to them, and they have a standing reservation at WP:ANI to file complaints and get us blocked and topic banned. Be extremely polite and use Wikipedia policies against them. Feel free to email me at any time. Kossack4Truth (talk) 18:24, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Could you tell me where this off-Wiki conspiracy is located? I'd like to sign up. Thanks. Gamaliel (talk) 18:25, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, of course you would. That's why you've been identified as one of the admins who have a left-wing bias, Gamaliel. By the way, did you notice that Peter Roskam won re-election? Kossack4Truth (talk) 18:35, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"Been identified"? Oh, am I on a blacklist at the National Review now? Please don't use talk pages to promote your conspiracy theories. Thank you. Gamaliel (talk) 18:38, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

National Review? No, of course not. Wikipedia Review? Perhaps. Kossack4Truth (talk) 18:48, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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	::::"Been identified"? Oh, am I on a blacklist at the National Review now? Please don't use talk pages to promote your conspiracy theories. Thank you. [[User:Gamaliel\|Gamaliel]] <small>([[User talk:Gamaliel\|talk]])</small> 18:38, 10 November 2008 (UTC)		::::"Been identified"? Oh, am I on a blacklist at the National Review now? Please don't use talk pages to promote your conspiracy theories. Thank you. [[User:Gamaliel\|Gamaliel]] <small>([[User talk:Gamaliel\|talk]])</small> 18:38, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

			:::::''[[National Review]]?'' No, of course not. [[Wikipedia Review]]? Perhaps. [[User:Kossack4Truth\|Kossack4Truth]] ([[User talk:Kossack4Truth\|talk]]) 18:48, 10 November 2008 (UTC)