User talk:Tedder

Chehalem Creek

Thank you for your feedback. It's a lot easier knowing why my work was deleted than others who just delete it. I would like to respond to your three concerns: 1. I always strive to provide links to journal articles when I add references and did not realize that providing a link to an article hosted by an external organization was a severe issue, especially when that organization is a non-profit educational foundation and has permission to host said articles. I am not a member or official of that organization, however. Nevertheless I have deleted the links to those URLs everywhere I can think of. 2. A photo of a salmon jumping a beaver dam is relevant to many sites, not just Alaska where the picture was taken, because salmon have a wide range such as Chehalem Creek, and have also been planted in lakes like Lake Tahoe. This particular salmon photo is the exact subspecies of salmon planted in Tahoe, Oncorhyncus nerka, and getting a photo of a salmon in Tahoe like that would be a one in a million. Surely it cannot be reasonable to only allow photos of species with wide territorial ranges that are taken at every single particular stream or lake? The image also conveys important information on the North American beaver page as many people regard beaver dams as barriers to salmonid migration. The image conveys that salmon pass beaver barriers and that the two species co-exist. 3. I do not agree that I am currently soapboxing about flow devices. Not when my comments are factual and each one is referenced. Nevertheless I have been guilty of this before and am learning the hard work of separating what seems to me emotionally to be an obvious solution from an objective, pithy entry. Therefore I will reduce the mention of this important option to a single sentence and buttress it with three references from the peer-reviewed literature. Again I much appreciate your leaving me information on why, how and what to do to improve my articles. Chehalem Creek did not exist until I put it up a few nights ago and it has some fascinating history. It is an irony to me that it was first explored and then settled by beaver trappers and that now, in 2010, the city of Newberg is in the midst of quite a controversy about their beavers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Schmiebel (talk • contribs) 05:10, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

Hi- the best bet is probably to discuss this on article talk pages, since you won't get much input from my lowly talk page. Anyhow, there was no evidence the blog had permission to host the content, it's best to not link directly to it due to the copyright laws in the USA, where Wikipedia has some of its servers. I'm opposed to the salmon picture for a handful of reasons, but I'll leave it on Tahoe because it's the same species (is there a cite for that?), and because it probably needs a wider conversation than just the two of us. tedder (talk) 06:00, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

Will consolidate discussion here Talk:Chehalem Creek#Beavers. Aboutmovies (talk) 21:02, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Talkback- WPMAC protection

User:IBen/TB mono 21:38, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks- it's rolled off, but I went back and read through it. I'll protect; the number of templates is enough to make semi-pro worthwhile, but it's a borderline case, since it's on talk pages only. The best argument to protecting is that it reduces server load to semi-protect. Vandalism isn't a great argument because it's only on talk pages and hasn't happened. tedder (talk) 01:18, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

For my information...

Hi again and sorry if I am troubling you for this tiny request but could you help link my user talk's User talk:Dave1185/Editnotice to User:Dave1185/Links~? Just been harassed by a low-life a moment back... *sigh* --Dave ^{♠♣♥♦1185♪♫™} 14:01, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Wait, you want the editnotice to appear when someone edits /links? If so, add it here: Template:Editnotices/Page/User:Dave1185/Links. tedder (talk) 14:08, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Eugene EC

The only part I sort of cared about was the river bank trails. Please feel free to continue. --Tesscass (talk) 18:02, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

That was the only edit I was doing to it- no worries. Again, sorry for clobbering your edits! tedder (talk) 18:11, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks to both of you for trying to clean up the recent work on that page. Should we see about an editor RFC for the problem content, or try more discussion? Assuming we all agree that things such as taxi service providers are not particularly encyclopedic for a Eugene article - NYC I could understand. Or try again on the article talk page? Aboutmovies (talk) 20:00, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Editor RFCs don't really accomplish anything. I think we should be patient and continue to work with them. tedder (talk) 21:00, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Semi on Globe Theatre

Thanks for you intervention on Globe Theatre, but vandalism from unconfirmed users (e. g., [1]) is still occurring. Am I missing something? --Old Moonraker (talk) 21:47, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, it means I failed to click the right buttons. It's protected now; I don't remember what duration I promised, so I guessed 3 months. tedder (talk) 21:48, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

That was quick, thanks. It was twelve months, btw. --Old Moonraker (talk) 21:51, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm near the computer, so it was easy to fix. I also fixed the length- set it to a year. tedder (talk) 22:10, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks again.--Old Moonraker (talk) 06:27, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Global names index list

Hey there. In response to your questions would you be able to explain what you mean by annotations? There is no need to get anything from the global names index since Raul already extracted all the names from the list (A person creating articles from the list would go there to get additional references, but in order to arrange the list itself, there is no need to have access to them directly). In addition to that, he removed a lot of the names that would never become articles and that link I posted ([2]) contains all the species, genera and higher rankings that are currently named/listed in a database (example of rauls list: (http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mpellegr/wikipedia/data/AAA-ADX-filtered). The sources where all these names come from is here: [3].

Now I am no computer expert but I can make a general outline/plan of how I envision the bot to work for my functions:

1. Bot opens [4]
2. Bot copies first ~2,000 articles from the list (since I already did this manually for the first page [5] the bot can copy 2,000 articles below the last name of the previous page, in this case being Abelmoschus ficulneoides)
3. Bot edits/creates page called A2 (I.E. following on from the above title) and pastes 2,000 names. (I say edit, because the current pages actually were created by me manually prior to Raul obtaining the filtered version of the list, these pages that do exist can be overwritten --> All others that don't exist can be created from scratch)
4. Bot adds template words/headings/titles as shown on page [6]
5. Bot saves list.
6. Bot obtains the next 2,000 names after the last name from the previous page.
7. Process is repeated (A3, A4, A5.... A500...) until all of letter A is done.
8. Bot does the same with B through Z

That should cover it but if you have any other questions please feel free to ask. Note that this has a lot of names (surprisingly a lot of things missing from Wikipedia) and the previous person who tried to do it kept crashing their computer (I myself was having a lot of trouble pasting such large amounts of data). Oh and yes this will be a one of request. Understandably there are new species and genera being discovered all the time (in fact, the GNI has updated the number of names it has by a few thousand from when I last updated the project page: [7] --> 18,633,200 to 18,636,390 but we can worry about those other names ONCE the main list is covered (which will take a while). Note also that since Raul's list is the filtered version and hence does not have 18 million names (not sure how much but it is A LOT LESS than that). Here is our previous discussion with him for further background: [8].

Kind regards.Calaka (talk) 12:11, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

AA bot

As per User_talk:Legoktm/April_2010#AA_bot and Wikipedia:Bot_requests#User:ArticleAlertbot_has_been_inoperable_for_a_month, I am trying to figure out if someone is at work on this or if we can get someone at work on this.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 14:32, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Hi TTT, I'm not working on it, I'm sort of blocked because I can't get a toolserver account, or even anyone to tell me why new accounts aren't being given out. tedder (talk) 17:44, 12 May 2010 (UTC)