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*'''Strong Keep''' Well known and large South African asset management company. [[User:Park3r|Park3r]] ([[User talk:Park3r|talk]]) 08:02, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
*'''Strong Keep''' Well known and large South African asset management company. [[User:Park3r|Park3r]] ([[User talk:Park3r|talk]]) 08:02, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
::Great, but how do we know that unless there are third-party reliable references? Any links? [[User:HighKing|<b style="font-family: Courier; color: darkgreen;"> HighKing</b>]]<sup>[[User talk:HighKing|<span style="font-family: Courier; color: #da0000;">++ </span>]]</sup> 21:26, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
::Great, but how do we know that unless there are third-party reliable references? Any links? [[User:HighKing|<b style="font-family: Courier; color: darkgreen;"> HighKing</b>]]<sup>[[User talk:HighKing|<span style="font-family: Courier; color: #da0000;">++ </span>]]</sup> 21:26, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' more than enough sources in GNews at least confirming they exist, not sure how notable they are. [[User:Oaktree b|Oaktree b]] ([[User talk:Oaktree b|talk]]) 16:58, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
* '''Comment''' more than enough sources in GNews at least confirming they exist, not sure how notable they are. [[User:Oaktree b|Oaktree b]] ([[User talk:Oaktree b|talk]]) 16:58, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
* '''Comment''' there are numerous articles in the financial press about Stanlib. Given the declining quality of Google search results means that we need to prefix our searches. The fact that South African journalism is in crisis means that many sources are now paywalled. Here are some mainstream sources (IOL is not paywalled and despite recent issues with its journalism, the group dates back to the 1800s, and was a [[WP:RS]] when most of these articles were written. A search for •
“Stanlib iol” gives us numerous results including: from 2021 [https://www.iol.co.za/business-report/companies/stanlib-grows-assets-under-management-to-r652m-69f63fe4-4554-4ab5-93ce-e2989846ebf2]. From 2009 [https://www.iol.co.za/personal-finance/investments/stanlib-finds-its-way-997898]. From 2018 [https://www.iol.co.za/amp/personal-finance/stanlib-may-further-reduce-fund-offering-14717297]. From 2004 [https://www.iol.co.za/amp/personal-finance/stanlib-changes-rules-to-discourage-transactions-on-money-market-fund-995284]. From 2015 (Bloomberg) [https://www.iol.co.za/business-report/companies/infrastructure-stanlib-sets-up-r12bn-fund-1809359]. 2006: [https://www.iol.co.za/amp/personal-finance/investments/stanlib-rationalises-its-unit-trusts-995792]. 2004: [https://www.iol.co.za/personal-finance/stanlib-unitholders-say-yes-to-sas-biggest-fund-merger-994982]. 2012:[https://www.iol.co.za/amp/business-report/companies/stanlib-announces-two-senior-appointments-1298218]. Here’s coverage from News24: [https://www.news24.com/amp/fin24/companies/investing-why-stanlib-is-raking-in-the-money-20200301]. I’m on a mobile, but there are literally dozens of articles in [[WP:RS]] demonstrating its notability. 22:19, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
*'''Merge''' and '''Redirect''' as per [[WP:ATD]] to [[Liberty Holdings Limited]] - although that article is probably in worse shape currently, it does appear that sufficient sources exist for that topic to meet notability criteria. [[User:HighKing|<b style="font-family: Courier; color: darkgreen;"> HighKing</b>]]<sup>[[User talk:HighKing|<span style="font-family: Courier; color: #da0000;">++ </span>]]</sup> 21:26, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
*'''Merge''' and '''Redirect''' as per [[WP:ATD]] to [[Liberty Holdings Limited]] - although that article is probably in worse shape currently, it does appear that sufficient sources exist for that topic to meet notability criteria. [[User:HighKing|<b style="font-family: Courier; color: darkgreen;"> HighKing</b>]]<sup>[[User talk:HighKing|<span style="font-family: Courier; color: #da0000;">++ </span>]]</sup> 21:26, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
*'''Merge''' or '''Redirect''' to [[Liberty Holdings Limited]]. No proper citations provided. [[User:Chelokabob|Chelokabob]] ([[User talk:Chelokabob|talk]]) 23:21, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
*'''Merge''' or '''Redirect''' to [[Liberty Holdings Limited]]. No proper citations provided. [[User:Chelokabob|Chelokabob]] ([[User talk:Chelokabob|talk]]) 23:21, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

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Article has only 1st party sources; I can find nothing but listings in Google, DGG ( talk ) 07:31, 8 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Great, but how do we know that unless there are third-party reliable references? Any links? HighKing++ 21:26, 14 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment more than enough sources in GNews at least confirming they exist, not sure how notable they are. Oaktree b (talk) 16:58, 8 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment there are numerous articles in the financial press about Stanlib. Given the declining quality of Google search results means that we need to prefix our searches. The fact that South African journalism is in crisis means that many sources are now paywalled. Here are some mainstream sources (IOL is not paywalled and despite recent issues with its journalism, the group dates back to the 1800s, and was a WP:RS when most of these articles were written. A search for •

“Stanlib iol” gives us numerous results including: from 2021 [1]. From 2009 [2]. From 2018 [3]. From 2004 [4]. From 2015 (Bloomberg) [5]. 2006: [6]. 2004: [7]. 2012:[8]. Here’s coverage from News24: [9]. I’m on a mobile, but there are literally dozens of articles in WP:RS demonstrating its notability. 22:19, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Can we merge content that is not properly sourced?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 14:54, 15 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]