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Request for input in discussion forum

Given the closely linked subjects of the various religion, mythology, and philosophy groups, it seems to me that we might benefit from having some sort of regular topical discussion forum to discuss the relevant content. I have put together the beginnings of an outline for such discussion at Wikipedia:WikiProject Religion/2011 meeting, and would very much appreciate the input of any interested editors. I am thinking that it might run over two months, the first of which would be to bring forward and discuss the current state of the content, and the second for perhaps some more focused discussion on what, if any, specific efforts might be taken in the near future. Any and all input is more than welcome. John Carter (talk)

Automated message by Project Messenger Bot from John Carter at 15:44, 5 April 2011

Hi, there has been significant restructuring of the human body, human physiology and human anatomy articles over at WP:Anatomy, making the Human body article the main, offering opportunities for future expansion once significant information is available.

There is currently not anything on alternative views of the human body, such as those from TCM, if you are willing to add a section that doesn't make any medical claims (as per WP:MEDRS), only giving views of the human body that would be most helpful. CFCF (talk) 11:50, 18 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

What kind of alt-med beliefs about the human body would bypass the need for WP:MEDRS? bobrayner (talk) 06:21, 19 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Non-medical ones perhaps - if they were signalled as culturally specific beliefs? FiachraByrne (talk) 01:09, 24 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I think something is wrong with this paragraph ...

I believe this paragraph has an error:

Aflatoxin, a extremely potent carcinogen and major cause of mitochondria damage, and hence all bodily processes including skeletal muscles, has been shown to be inhibited by whey protein and ginseng extract.[27] However, the amount of aflatoxin within whey protein itself, was shown to be reflected by the amount in the unprocessed milk used to make it.[28]

I am not sure what they were trying to say, but it does not make sense. First, it says that Whey inhibits the carcinogenic effect of aflatoxin. Then, it insinuates that there is actually aflatoxin within whey itself. So, whey contains aflatoxin, and whey makes aflatoxin non-carcinogenic at the same time??? That is what this appears to say. It needs to be better explained. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.61.5.5 (talk) 19:05, 1 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Joining the Alt Med taskforce

I was wondering how I could be involved and join the alt med taskforce. Tharyanp ! 21:24, 22 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi User:Tharyanp,
Welcome to Wikipedia. "Joining" really just means that you help out with the work. Improve articles on alt med topics, keep an eye on this page for anyone who needs help (or to tell us what you've done that you enjoyed), and do your best to improve information on Wikipedia. WhatamIdoing (talk) 22:38, 26 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Identifying reliable sources (medicine) - prohibiting primary sources

"Primary sources should generally not be used for medical content" was added to wp:Identifying reliable sources (medicine). Are there any opinions about this? - Sidelight12 Talk 19:12, 5 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Buteyko breathing - my personal experience

I have suffered wth asthma most of my life and I am now 80 years old. I came across the Buteyko Method of breathing in 1998 when the BBC published their boolet QED abd also ran a TV series on it. I have found it the best reliever of Asthma and every Asthma sufferer should be aware of it. I have recently read of two deaths of young students "from Asthma". But I was taught when I was 20 that "Nobody dies of Asthma" only the so-called medical cures for asthma cause death. Every time I feel that an asthma attack is building up, I start my Buteyko breathing and it subsides. I went to an ASTMA CLINIC at my doctor's surgery, but no mention was made of the BUTEYKO Method. The medical profession should teach it in all their Asthma clinics and it would save the NHS Billions of pounds. The excuse given is that it is not scientifically proven to be a cure. But then neither is Ventilin or all the other Asthma Inhalers prescribed. All they do is give temporary relief. But the emphasis is on the word temporary. After a time the patient becomes totally dependent on the inhaler and is frightened to leave the house without it. the Buteyko method is free and you always have it with you. So what is it. Basically it is learning to completely exhale and then hold your breath for as long as possible. In my case 20 seconds is enough to bring relief from an Astma attack. The common belief about Asthma is that you cannot breathe in. But the real problem is that you have not trained to exhale properly. the reason you cannot breathe in is that your lungs are full of bad air. Once you have trained to exhale you are on the way to long term Astma relief. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.4.102.78 (talk) 11:29, 9 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I am new here and need help with to correct a possible vandalism

Hello all I decided to finally create an account since I see a lot of vandalism happening to the subjects I have a interest in. I was researching Holistic Medicine and was redirected to Holistic health.. the page seems to have been changed to the point that there is no real information for Holistic health and the only sources that are cited besides one leads to Quackwatch. Why would a article on alternative health point to only resources to Quackwatch and organization that is opposed to any kinds of alternative health?

I do not really have the knowledge or know how to fix it at this time I have only really done basic editing on wiki in past like linking to other articles. I also do not think I have enough knowledge in this area to write a full based article on it which is what it needs. I do a lot of research though... on topics I care about and well I used Wikipedia a lot as a jumping of point to topics like Herbalism,Alchemy,Paganism,Spirituality.. just to name a few. That is why I am here It makes me said that a great resource for knowledge that I care about is being intentionally vandalized and deleted. Just because it goes against what other people believe, Knowledge should be free no matter how Alternative it is. I hope some one can help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DarkMystik1 (talkcontribs) 07:07, 15 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to Wikipedia! Sometimes you can find useful information in old versions, by looking in the page history. But remember, Wikipedia is supposed to represent the mainstream views as being the dominant mainstream views, and minority viewpoints as being the less popular/generally rejected/unscientific/minority views (whichever applies).
Generally speaking, the first step in improving an article is to find a good book on the subject. The best sources are usually independent "overviews" written by people who aren't trying to make money or get famous and published by a reputable publisher (not self-published by the author via a vanity press). WhatamIdoing (talk) 22:44, 26 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion at Category_talk:Alternative_medicine#Pseudoscience_category_being_added_again

You are invited to join the discussion at Category_talk:Alternative_medicine#Pseudoscience_category_being_added_again. Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 20:54, 26 March 2014 (UTC)Template:Z48[reply]

Attention needed at Postural_Integration; possible fringe article

This article's sources are all primary, with 11 of the 12 being from the founder's writings. This is a very fringe form of bodywork and I haven't been able to find any reference to it in the secondary source books I'm consulting for another bodywork page, Rolfing. It is in the list of types of massage at the bottom of the Rolfing page, but I think it should be removed from that list due to be quite obscure. Google didn't produce much useful information, either, nor did it produce local practitioners. I'm hesitant to rip into this page myself, being a newbie and not being sure how to handle an utter lack of sources. Thought you might be interested. Thanks!--Karinpower (talk) 18:25, 5 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Gary Null Article

The Gary Null article is getting hammered. It started out as a biased article, I started adding to it to make it objective, more balanced, and give more information. Apparently I have a conflict of interest because my dad did his radio show in the 70s and 80's. Any editors wanna pick this up and develop the article? Its getting hammered by several editors who rather than look at facts just keep reverting the article. I am not interested in counterattacking or sanctioning these people, but they seem very interested in counterattacking and sanctioning me.

If you want to help, add useful, accurate information to his article. hello 02:21, 11 May 2014 (UTC)