Altaic languages: Revision history

20 November 2024

• curprev 08:1608:16, 20 November 2024 Kanguole talk contribs 62,863 bytes −35 Undid revision 1258538525 by 89.33.113.249 (talk) no relevance undo Tag: Undo
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9 November 2024

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26 October 2024

• curprev 03:3003:30, 26 October 2024 Fehufanga talk contribs 62,870 bytes −4 Undid revision 1253463850 by 2600:1702:30:1A50:D806:655E:FB1A:F9BC (talk) not a good wikikink undo Tag: Undo
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22 October 2024

• curprev 00:2000:20, 22 October 2024 Nø talk contribs 62,870 bytes −224 Rv - "barely included" makes no sense undo Tag: Undo

21 October 2024

• curprev 23:2723:27, 21 October 2024 142.105.144.139 talk 63,094 bytes +4 No edit summary undo Tag: Reverted
• curprev 23:2623:26, 21 October 2024 142.105.144.139 talk 63,090 bytes +220 Could it be hypothetically possible? undo Tag: Reverted

14 October 2024

• curprev 19:1919:19, 14 October 2024 Kanguole talk contribs 62,870 bytes −962 →top: rejig intro undo
• curprev 09:4809:48, 14 October 2024 Onel5969 talk contribs m 63,832 bytes +7 Disambiguating links to Luandi (link changed to Luandi (Clan)) using DisamAssist. undo
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13 October 2024

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4 October 2024

• curprev 16:2616:26, 4 October 2024 EvergreenFir talk contribs 63,780 bytes +5 Reverted 1 edit by 197.53.217.174 (talk): The source says "highly controversial" https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Uralic_Languages/0WFqEAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=altiac%20controversial undo Tags: Twinkle Undo
• curprev 16:2016:20, 4 October 2024 197.53.217.174 talk 63,775 bytes −5 This says that Altaic is highly controversial but Altaic is already a widely rejected language family undo Tags: Reverted Visual edit Mobile edit Mobile web edit

3 October 2024

• curprev 21:2321:23, 3 October 2024 RMCD bot talk contribs 63,780 bytes −125 Removing notice of move discussion undo

27 September 2024

• curprev 18:3218:32, 27 September 2024 RMCD bot talk contribs 63,905 bytes −7 Sync modified notice of move discussion on Talk:Altaic languages undo

4 September 2024

• curprev 23:3723:37, 4 September 2024 GreenC bot talk contribs 63,912 bytes +4 Rescued 1 archive link; reformat 1 link; Move 1 url. Wayback Medic 2.5 per Google Cache undo
• curprev 10:0110:01, 4 September 2024 RMCD bot talk contribs 63,908 bytes +132 Notifying subject page of move discussion on Talk:Altaic languages undo

3 September 2024

• curprev 11:4111:41, 3 September 2024 Austronesier talk contribs 63,776 bytes +244 Restored revision 1243777651 by Austronesier (talk): Don't remove the tag. The article still leans too heavily towards pro-Altaicist positions in multiple sections; until these sections haven't been cleaned up, the tag stays! And don't make unsourced/undiscussed changes to the lead section. undo Tags: Twinkle Undo
• curprev 11:3411:34, 3 September 2024 Cam0mac talk contribs 63,532 bytes −244 Undid revision 1243777651 by Austronesier (talk) If there is no undue balance, then there should be no tag on the top. The article itself uses sources and language that say the Altaic hypothesis is a former one. "Since the 1950s, most comparative linguists have rejected the proposal, after supposed cognates were found not to be valid...", source 7,8,9. My changes kept consistency and solved an issue. undo Tags: Undo Reverted
• curprev 11:3011:30, 3 September 2024 Cam0mac talk contribs 63,776 bytes +244 Undid revision 1243778759 by Cam0mac (talk) undo Tags: Undo Reverted
• curprev 11:3011:30, 3 September 2024 Cam0mac talk contribs 63,532 bytes −244 Undid revision 1243777651 by Austronesier (talk) undo Tags: Undo Reverted
• curprev 11:1911:19, 3 September 2024 Austronesier talk contribs 63,776 bytes +244 We have a reliable source (WP:RS/AC) that says it is highly contronversial and a minority position. This is sufficient, there is no "false balance" here. For a harsher verdict (like "was"), where are your sources? undo Tags: Manual revert Reverted
• curprev 10:5010:50, 3 September 2024 Cam0mac talk contribs m 63,532 bytes −1 used the wrong word in previous edit. undo Tags: Reverted Visual edit
• curprev 10:2710:27, 3 September 2024 Cam0mac talk contribs 63,533 bytes −243 Edited the opening paragraph to fit with the rest of the introduction section and its sources, making it past tense in following with Wikipedia's Rules for Balance, as Altaic is now a fringe belief. Previous page gave a feeling of "Equal Validity", which is explicitly said to be avoided. Removed citing of Robbeets and Savelyev's work in the opening paragraph, as it was not relevant to whether or not Altaic is a proposed language family. undo Tags: Reverted Visual edit

21 August 2024

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22 June 2024

• curprev 20:3820:38, 22 June 2024 Austronesier talk contribs 63,602 bytes +32 Reverted 1 edit by Oğulcan Çelebi Aydın (talk): Rv unexplained removal of content undo Tags: Twinkle Undo
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9 June 2024

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9 May 2024

• curprev 21:2621:26, 9 May 2024 Flobbadob talk contribs 63,604 bytes +29 Further syntax tweaks. undo Tags: Mobile edit Mobile web edit
• curprev 21:2021:20, 9 May 2024 Flobbadob talk contribs 63,575 bytes +37 Split long sentence in two and unpacked (new) second sentence slightly. undo Tags: Mobile edit Mobile web edit
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7 May 2024

• curprev 07:0007:00, 7 May 2024 Nitr0us3 talk contribs 63,531 bytes −4 removed link lol undo Tags: Manual revert Mobile edit Mobile web edit
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4 May 2024

• curprev 15:0515:05, 4 May 2024 Sakaiberian talk contribs 63,531 bytes −9 No edit summary undo

3 May 2024

• curprev 22:0522:05, 3 May 2024 Sakaiberian talk contribs 63,540 bytes −152 I could be wrong, but has anyone actually included Nivkh and CK in Altaic? undo

30 April 2024

• curprev 20:4920:49, 30 April 2024 Dumuzid talk contribs 63,692 bytes −7,587 Undid revision 1221592230 by 2A02:C7E:3011:FC00:68AB:3511:3ACB:5016 (talk) please gain consensus on the talk page first undo Tag: Undo
• curprev 20:4120:41, 30 April 2024 2a02:c7e:3011:fc00:68ab:3511:3acb:5016 talk 71,279 bytes +7,587 Undid revision 1221589310 by Warrenmck (talk) You've reverted at least 4 times now, please stop, this is sourced content and important to the article. You've broken WP:3RR yourself while trying to warn me to not do the same thing. undo Tags: Undo Reverted
• curprev 20:1920:19, 30 April 2024 Warrenmck talk contribs 63,692 bytes −7,587 Final revert per WP:3RR, user reverting this content needs to stay on the talk page an not simultaneously edit war and discuss on the talk page. There WAS a conversation about these etymologies in controversial macrofamily proposals. Undid revision 1221586603 by 2A02:C7E:3011:FC00:68AB:3511:3ACB:5016 (talk) undo Tags: Undo Reverted
• curprev 20:0120:01, 30 April 2024 2a02:c7e:3011:fc00:68ab:3511:3acb:5016 talk 71,279 bytes +7,587 Undid revision 1221576696 by Warrenmck (talk) That's not how Wikipedia works. You need to get a consensus before removing sourced content. You keep talking about a discussion but leave no link, nor do you back your claims of a "scholarly consensus". Clearly, there's disagreement between scholars and it's important to show both sides. Robbeets is just as reliable a source as Vovin, if not more. undo Tags: Undo Reverted
• curprev 18:5418:54, 30 April 2024 Warrenmck talk contribs 63,692 bytes −7,587 Rv, beware WP:3RR discuss this on talk page before continuing to revert. There was a discussion on the linguistics wikiproject about not including huge etymology lists for hypothetical proto-languages which aren’t considered real per scholarly consensus due to WP:PARITY, Undid revision 1221531931 by 2A02:C7E:3011:FC00:68AB:3511:3ACB:5016 (talk) undo Tags: Undo Reverted
• curprev 13:5613:56, 30 April 2024 2a02:c7e:3011:fc00:68ab:3511:3acb:5016 talk 71,279 bytes +7,587 Undid revision 1220312786 by Warrenmck (talk) There's no consensus on the Talk page. The only thing eating up a lot of space are the many sources by Vovin, who, while dismissing Altaic, has proposed much more niche theories with far less evidence. He doesn't seem like a trustworthy figure on the subject, yet he's given a lot of space here. undo Tags: Undo Reverted

24 April 2024

• curprev 19:2519:25, 24 April 2024 AnomieBOT talk contribs m 63,692 bytes +16 Dating maintenance tags: {{More citations needed section}} undo
• curprev 17:2517:25, 24 April 2024 128.228.164.236 talk 63,676 bytes +21 →The Sprachbund hypothesis undo
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23 April 2024

• curprev 00:3600:36, 23 April 2024 Warrenmck talk contribs 63,654 bytes −7,587 Re-removing table, see talk page Undid revision 1220272652 by AnandaBliss (talk) undo Tags: Undo Reverted

22 April 2024

• curprev 20:0020:00, 22 April 2024 AnandaBliss talk contribs 71,241 bytes +7,587 Restored a table with an attached "experts needed" section template. undo Tag: Reverted