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Pronunciation

How do you pronounce that club's name?- SCB '92 10:18, 21 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

ç in Turkish is pronounced as tch in English. However, it would be nice if someone could add the IPA pronounciation of the word in the intro.. Baristarim 20:56, 21 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I can tell you how to pronounce the last part (bahçe, which also means garden btw) -> Bach (the composer) put together with Che (the revolutionary), Bach-Che! I don't know how to use IPA sorry :) 81.215.13.145 09:20, 22 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Tags on Atatürk and Fenerbahçe section

"This article or section may contain inappropriate or misinterpreted citations which do not verify the text."

Misinterpreted? Do not verify the text? The link and section are the same text. This makes no sense. It seems like another anti-Fenerbahçe fan is trying to mess around again. CanbekEsen 19:30, 9 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The source that was provided is not reliable. There's no single evidence about Ataturk being a Fenerbahce fan apart from Fenerbahce's typical bla bla. Don't remove the tags.--BlueEyedCat 00:08, 10 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fenerbahçe's typical bla bla? This is from an official website, I'd highly doubt that the officials of such a high organization would try to release false stories. This just seems like another anti fan of the club that is trying to attack the article because they cannot accept something. CanbekEsen 00:46, 11 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You can't put forward Fenerbahce's official web site as a reference to your claims. It's non sense and completely funny. Don't remove the tags, this is turning into real vandalism.--BlueEyedCat 18:43, 11 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Have you seen this?. Please look into this as it has already been resolved instead of sounding ignorant. Even the Turkish version of Wikipedia has this. CanbekEsen 20:18, 11 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Turkish wikipedia no longer has it. I fixed. NPOV. Learn what that means. How can that be an information source, searching google for words "Fenerbahçe" and "Atatürk" :)))) You are really funny :))) Now I am going to type my name and "Atatürk" to google and say that he was my friend. LOL 88.245.73.109 21:04, 20 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Do you realize that the section was sourced from a reliable source? Looking at the history, I take to believe you were the one who added that section. Do you realize that you added it without any sources? A lot of negative things are posted on Wikipedia pages everyday, and you had not sourced it, which leads to suspect that rival fans may be trying to "attack" the club page. If you peek at the history, there has been several issues that we've been trying to solve. Nobody here is "claiming" he was supporter, we are just using the bare-bone information provided by the website that there was a possibility that he may have been a supporter of the club. I myself do not believe that he was a total supporter, considering football wasn't very big back then, but as I've said before, what you posted was suspect as negative info and possibly vandalism. Now that it seems you have sourced, it may stay. It does need a bit re-wording though. Also, I do suggest you refrain from personal attacks. Thank you, CanbekEsen 22:08, 20 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You could use ^{[citation needed]} tag instead of removing. When there is only Fenerbahçe offical sites opinion left, it becomes propaganda. Neyse geçti artık önemli değil :)..... Thank you, 88.245.73.109 23:53, 20 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Article must mention sth about recent fraud claims (chicanery, illegal incentive premium) investigated by TFF

Article must mention sth about recent fraud claims (chicanery, illegal incentive premium) investigated by TFF.--BlueEyedCat 18:46, 11 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not. CanbekEsen 20:14, 11 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Just look at Juventus article. There's nothing wrong with it. I'm sure article must mention about fraud claims.--BlueEyedCat 20:54, 11 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Look If I would say that Bush won the elections by the help of the mafia and show some "sources" to support my claim, how important and worth discussing it would be? The man who made the fraud claim is an ordinary restaurant manager. Some argues that he has serious mental and economic problems which possibly let him to make such claims. Do we really have to mention a restaurant managers claims here just because he made his show on a national tv channel? Saygılarımla, Deliogul 21:08, 11 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

See, that's the thing. These are "claims", not actual facts. If you would look at the link I had posted, you'd see that what I am talking about is in that link. CanbekEsen 22:27, 11 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

So you put ordinary people's claim of Ataturk being a Fenerbahce fan into Wikipedia, but you're against of putting fraud claims. I guess debate is over. Just choose one of them, either remove both Ataturk claims or put both of them.--BlueEyedCat 20:14, 12 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe other Fenerbaçe fans will get angry to me but personally I don't care if Mustafa Kemal Pasha was a fan or not and actually I think he wasn't supporting any clubs but he was proud of Fenerbahçe because of the team's achievements and heroic helps to the Independence War. On the other hand, a restaurant manager is an ordinary guy but people who claim that Mustafa Kemal Pasha was a fan of Fenerbahçe were not ordinary people. Saygılarımla, Deliogul 20:31, 12 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Turkish Super League

I nominated the article of Turkish Super League to be the next article to be upgraded by the Wikipedia community. Please go to this page and vote for our league. We need at least 3 votes to win![1].Haydi Beyler, Deliogul 16:22, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sovyetler Birliği milli takımının article'ına yenildik bu hafta ama bir dahaki hafta için şansımız devam ediyor.Yukardaki linke tıklayıp bir oy atın da Süper Lig'i featured article yapalım. Deliogul 11:39, 9 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Zaferrr!

Turkcell Super League article is choosen as the football collaboration of the week! Please help expanding the article. Oy atanlara büyük teşekkür. Deliogul 14:28, 14 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Colours

In the turkish wikipedia the hom,e and away colours are exactly the OPPOSITE. Now which are the real ones??? --Teemeah Gül Bahçesi 11:11, 2 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ataturk

Well, I really couldn't give two hoots either way about which club he was supporting. Particularly since back when he lived all the three major clubs were nothing more than amateurish weekend gatherings. It was only after the WW2 that football became something close to professional, both in Europe and Turkey. However, if there is going to be a claim it should be clearly stated who is making the claim. Baristarim 01:06, 14 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think the last edit about Atatürk section made it more objective. Please don't revert those claims. Deliogul 20:01, 21 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

External links

I see some people re-adding links to various fan/spam/blog websites. I say keep Antu.com because they are somewhat of an "official" fan website of Fenerbahce. I don't think we need the others. CanbekEsen 23:14, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Notable players

I've seen a lot of players added to the "Notable players" section. Now, this section is supposed to include players who have made a significant impact at the club. For example, some of the Brazilian players. Fabiano Lima was loaned to us for a season and he made little to no impact. Sergio Ricardo spent half a season with us and then was loaned out to a variety of clubs. Simao played one season for us. These should be moved to a page like List of foreign footballers in Turkey. CAN 20:20, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I totally agree! By the way, Nobre is shown as Brazilian, but Aurelio is shown as Turkish, correction needed.SONSAVASCI 12:16, 13 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well then, I'll try to start it tonight and see how it goes. Also, I think Nobre's first nationality is still Brazilian, since he hasn't been called up to Turkey. CAN 14:36, 13 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Italian?!

Lugano and Edu are Italian... Hımmm are you sure? Deliogul 20:40, 20 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Gokhantig (talk · contribs) has gone around saying a bunch of players have dual nationality, yet there are no sources to prove this (see Jaba). CAN 20:48, 20 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Looking at it now, I think all these things with players holding dual-nationality for other countries isn't really notable, considering Turkey's foreign policy. I'm going to remove them now. CAN 02:33, 30 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I guess Jaba even said that he would be proud of playing for the Turkey national football team but it is still irrelevant to our business. I didn't hear anything about Italian citizenships of Edu and Lugano :) Deliogul 15:17, 30 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Fair use rationale for Image:Turkcell Super League logo.jpg

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