Low Franconian: Revision history

17 August 2024

• curprev 14:0814:08, 17 August 2024‎ FrescoBot talk contribs‎ m 17,849 bytes −22‎ Bot: link syntax and minor changes undo

31 July 2024

• curprev 05:4105:41, 31 July 2024‎ Criticalthinker talk contribs‎ 17,871 bytes +76‎ →‎Modern classification: There needs to be a connection to that article in this article, where it's every bit as relevant as listing the equally ambiguous term 'Limburgs.' undo

29 July 2024

• curprev 16:5616:56, 29 July 2024‎ Austronesier talk contribs‎ 17,795 bytes −41‎ →‎Modern classification: Not really a thing. While widely distributed on the web, the "LVR"-classification goes back to a recent simplisitic classification by one dialectologist. undo
• curprev 16:5316:53, 29 July 2024‎ Austronesier talk contribs‎ 17,836 bytes +72‎ →‎Modern classification: South Low Franconian has a number of subdivisions, details can be found in the main article. Reducing it to Limburgish + Bergish doesn't really capture the internal structure of it. undo
• curprev 16:5016:50, 29 July 2024‎ Austronesier talk contribs‎ 17,764 bytes −5‎ Not a complete list, since South Franconian dialects spoken to the left of the Rhine River in Germany are neither Limburgish nor Bergish. Also, East Bergish is WP:UNDUE, as it is a recent construct only proposed by one dialectologist. undo
• curprev 06:0806:08, 29 July 2024‎ Criticalthinker talk contribs‎ 17,769 bytes +136‎ Slight correction. Just a general update, overall, since East Bergish was not mentioned directly, at all. East Bergish is a North Low Franc. dialect and "Bergish" and extension of "Limburgs" a South Low Franc. dialect. undo
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24 July 2024

• curprev 13:4213:42, 24 July 2024‎ 2003:de:3717:71f0:b0a9:7503:3e39:bb80 talk‎ 17,665 bytes −46‎ map didn't fit to the description, and map didn't show Low Franconian but dialects in the Netherlands and Belgium (incl. Low Saxon und Frisian dialects) and hence also missed Low Franconian in Germany undo

30 June 2024

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28 June 2024

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17 June 2024

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11 June 2024

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1 June 2024

• curprev 12:3912:39, 1 June 2024‎ Austronesier talk contribs‎ 17,694 bytes +43‎ Per main article text. At this level, broad terms such as Dutch and Limburgish can be misleading. undo
• curprev 04:5304:53, 1 June 2024‎ Arctic Circle System talk contribs‎ 17,651 bytes +19‎ →‎Modern classification: Added link to Dutch undo

29 May 2024

• curprev 09:2609:26, 29 May 2024‎ Onel5969 talk contribs‎ m 17,632 bytes +8‎ Disambiguating links to Brabant (link changed to Brabantian dialect) using DisamAssist. undo

20 May 2024

• curprev 00:0100:01, 20 May 2024‎ Sarcelles talk contribs‎ 17,624 bytes +27‎ Replaced map in German according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Dutch_dialects and https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Beer_parlour/2024/April#East_Bergish undo

13 May 2024

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1 May 2024

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23 April 2024

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24 February 2024

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27 December 2023

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26 December 2023

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24 November 2023

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11 November 2023

• curprev 12:5212:52, 11 November 2023‎ Austronesier talk contribs‎ 17,143 bytes −34‎ →‎Modern classification undo

5 November 2023

• curprev 12:0512:05, 5 November 2023‎ Austronesier talk contribs‎ 17,177 bytes −13‎ →‎Modern classification: None of the sources (except for Pauwels) has Flemish as a unit. This also extends to most other sources about the topic not cited here. undo

30 October 2023

• curprev 12:4512:45, 30 October 2023‎ Rodw talk contribs‎ m 17,190 bytes +19‎ Disambiguating links to Ripuarian (link changed to Ripuarian language) using DisamAssist. undo

29 October 2023

• curprev 18:4418:44, 29 October 2023‎ Austronesier talk contribs‎ 17,171 bytes −16‎ →‎Modern classification: Better put this into a note; too detailed for a broad outline undo
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• curprev 17:3217:32, 29 October 2023‎ Austronesier talk contribs‎ 15,055 bytes −49‎ These souces do not use these terms for contemporary W. Germanic varieties, but only earlier stages. E.g. Shay has "Old Low Franconian" = "Old Low Frankish" = Old Netherlandic". Nothing can be extrapolated from it for the terminology of later stages. undo
• curprev 17:2817:28, 29 October 2023‎ Austronesier talk contribs‎ 15,104 bytes −2,850‎ →‎Modern classification: Removed per WP:UNDUE. This gives to much weight to a terminological idiosyncrasy of Cornelissen and associates. Kleverlandish is still supported by Goossens' articles. undo
• curprev 17:2417:24, 29 October 2023‎ Sarcelles talk contribs‎ 17,954 bytes −50‎ →‎Terminology: Franconian (linguistics) is a concept running from Bavaria to Holland=>doesn't deserve a seemain undo
• curprev 17:1917:19, 29 October 2023‎ Austronesier talk contribs‎ 18,004 bytes −4,002‎ →‎Modern classification undo
• curprev 16:5216:52, 29 October 2023‎ Austronesier talk contribs‎ 22,006 bytes −1,571‎ This is a footnote in the terminological history. Maybe relevant in Ripuarian language in an overview of its research history, but not here; irrelevant especially for the lede of this article, but IMO also for the entire article. undo

22 October 2023

• curprev 19:1119:11, 22 October 2023‎ Sarcelles talk contribs‎ 23,577 bytes −43‎ →‎See also: repetition removed undo
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27 September 2023

• curprev 18:4618:46, 27 September 2023‎ Austronesier talk contribs‎ 23,817 bytes +9‎ This paragraph is redundant. It says "it ALSO includes", although all these varieties are already covered in the preceding list under Kleverlandish and South Low Franconian. Note e.g. how both S. Low Franconian and S. Low Rhenish are defined as lying between the Uerdingen and Benrath lines. We can mention Meuse-Rhenish and North/South Low Rhenish as alternative terminology/classification, but then we should also mention others that group S. Low Franconian as close to Ripuarian (see e.g. Lameli). undo

22 September 2023

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21 September 2023

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19 September 2023

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