Module talk:Political party

Edit request 21 June 2024

Could you please add the following party/political coalition color, which is running for the 2024 Mongolian parliamentary election:

• The Civic Unity Party (Mongolia). The hex value extracted from the website of party is #0A63B5. The abbreviation is CUP.

["The Civic Unity Party (Mongolia)"] = {abbrev = "CUP", color = "#0A63B5", shortname = "Civic Unity",}

• National Coalition (Mongolia). The hex value extracted from the website of party is #066B55. There is no abbreviation for coalition name.

["National Coalition (Mongolia)"] = {abbrev = "", color = "#066B55", shortname = "National Coalition",}

• Liberté party (Mongolia). The hex value extracted from the website of party is #0053A5. There is no abbreviation for party name.

["Liberté party (Mongolia)"] = {abbrev = "", color = "#0053A5", shortname = "Liberte",}

and please change name and color code for National Labor Party (Mongolia), since it has changed name into HUN party in 2022. The hex value extracted from emblem of the party is #631E92. There is no abbreviation for party name.

So, please change:

["National Labor Party (Mongolia)"] = {abbrev = "NLP", color = "#6D3290", shortname = "",},

to:

["HUN party"] = {abbrev = "", color = "#631E92", shortname = "HUN",},

Saruul 04 (talk) 18:54, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

Edit Request 1 July 2024 – Make Independent Labor (Australia) distinguishable from Australian Labor Party

The de facto party colour used on Wikipedia for Independent Labor (Australia) is

  #ff585e

#ff585e, but this template uses

  #F00012

which is difficult to distinguish from

  #DE3533

I'd appreciate this fix, thanks. – GlowstoneUnknown (Talk) 02:59, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

Adding icons

While I am personally against it, I thought I would get opinions as to whether it makes sense to include icons in this module. For explanation, there is currently a TFD for a group of Taiwanese political party templates which also include an icon (e.g. {{Congress Party Alliance}}) and one of the main concerns I can see about the deletion is the loss of the icon (which I find personally unnecessary but I am just one voice). We already have some scuffles over party colours, would adding icons open the door to even more edit warring? Primefac (talk) 14:43, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

I'm also personally opposed to their addition. Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 15:20, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

Edit request relating to multiple parties

As far as I am aware, the following parties’ colours are not correctly stored: (might be outdated)

-Renew Europe (European Parliament group, not a formal political party): Its colour returned by the template is yellow, while its official colour is light (sky) blue

-Liberal Democrats (UK): the Liberal Democrats official colours are yellow (FAA61A) and black (charcoal/process black) or (secondary) navy and coral. The template spits out what appears to be gold (also what the article infobox says) but this is contradicted by the official Liberal Democrat website 79.170.253.184 (talk) 11:56, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

The website confirms that the colour is FAA61A. It calls itself yellow, but it looks to me like orange Cal3000000 (talk) 11:31, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

Edit Request Libertarian Party (Australia)

The former Liberal Democratic Party (Australia) has changed its article's name to Libertarian Party (Australia), please update the party in the Template. – GlowstoneUnknown (Talk) 14:00, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Go for it. Primefac (talk) 14:23, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Edit request 16 August 2024

Request to add the United Labor Party (New York), a regional and now defunct political party. The Hex Code is #6666e0 and the abbreviation is "ULP"

 ["United Labor Party (New York)"] = {abbrev = "ULP", color = "#6666e0", shortname = "",},

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.104.136.138 (talk) 23:27, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

 Done. Primefac (talk) 12:05, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

["Secular Democratic Alliance"] = {abbrev = "SDA", color = "#E4032E", shortname = "Mahajot", 49.47.141.165 (talk) 05:58, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

Help?: ‘Independent’ not linking correctly

At the very bottom of the infobox of Ikaroa-Rāwhiti, the previous MP is listed as independent, with “Independent” being passed via {{Infobox New Zealand electorate}} into {{Party abbrev linked}}, and returning “Ind”. But for whatever reason, the link returned is Independent, and not Independent politician. Any ideas where this is going wrong? — HTGS (talk) 08:02, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

That's a GIGO issue. {{party abbrev linked}} returns a link to the input value, not the value passed by the module; if you want it to link to Independent politician then you'll need to put that as the |previous_mp_party= Primefac (talk) 11:35, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

Edit request 19 August 2024

I would like to suggest an edit change due to inaccuracy for the Direction – Social Democracy.

The current use of "SMER–SD" as an abbreviation is incorrect because "Smer" is a word, not an acronym. In Slovak, "Smer" means "Direction," and it’s not an initialism where each letter stands for a separate word. Therefore, it should be written as "Smer–SD" with only the first letter capitalized, which accurately reflects its status as a proper noun, not an abbreviation. Additionally, using all capitals misleadingly suggests that it is an acronym, which it is not, and this goes against proper linguistic conventions.

However, an even better solution would be to simply use "Smer" without the "–SD." The hyphen in "Smer–SD" implies the connection of two distinct entities, which is not accurate since "SD" merely functions as an adjective (Social Democracy), not a separate entity. This would align more closely with both the linguistic and political nature of the term.

Moreover, it is more practical, for example when listing the coalition in a results table. Instead of the potentially confusing "SMER–SD–Hlas–SNS" or "Smer–SD–Hlas–SNS," simply using "Smer–Hlas–SNS" provides a clearer and more streamlined presentation.

The same principle applies to Voice – Social Democracy, which is currently incorrectly abbreviated as "HLAS–SD." 90.64.64.22 (talk) 08:41, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

 Done. Primefac (talk) 11:56, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

Hello, thank you. However, you changed HLAS–SD to HLAS, but Hlas is also a word, it means "Voice", so the abbreviation should be Hlas, not HLAS.--90.64.64.22 (talk) 13:31, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

You were non-specific. Primefac (talk) 13:53, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

Edit request 19 August 2024

I would like to suggest an edit change due to inaccuracy for Most–Híd.

"Most" means "bridge" in Slovak, and "Híd" means "bridge" in Hungarian, symbolizing the party’s role in connecting these two linguistic and cultural communities. Therefore, for greater clarity and accessibility to English-speaking audiences, the abbreviation "Bridge" should be used. This straightforward translation of both "Most" and "Híd" effectively conveys the party’s mission of bridging Slovak and Hungarian communities. Additionally, using "Bridge" might improve searchability and recognition in English-language contexts.

Moreover, using "Bridge" as the abbreviation would enhance clarity and coherence in coalition lists or political alliances, such as Smer–SNS–Bridge (government from 2016 to 2020). This format is more concise and user-friendly than Smer–SNS–Most–Híd, which could be cumbersome and less recognizable in general usage.--90.64.64.22 (talk) 17:42, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

Does this organisation actually use the shorthand "Bridge" to describe themselves? Primefac (talk) 12:27, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

Most–Híd never uses the abbreviation "Bridge" in Slovak or English, and the party exclusively refers to itself by its full name. The correct form is Most–Híd with an en dash, reflecting the official name and branding. Currently, Wikipedia uses a hyphen (Most-Híd), which must be changed to the en dash for accuracy.

Given that Most–Híd literally means "Bridge" in Slovak (most) and Hungarian (híd), "Bridge" could be considered for clarity in English contexts, particularly in coalition listings like Smer–SNS–Bridge. That is why I propose this alternative to the abbreviation Most–Híd with an en dash. 90.64.70.48 (talk) 20:39, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

If they refer to themselves as Most–Híd then we will do the same. I have fixed the endash issue. Primefac (talk) 15:56, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

Change the color of Indian National Congress

User:Primefac Indian National Congress is a liberal party which has not one official color. It's official colors are colors of Indian flag. Currently in Wikipedia it's represented by blue which represents conservative right-wing parties. So, I suggest to change the color to yellow which stands for liberalism. Das capitalist (talk) 15:53, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Indian National Congress says sky blue is customary. Feel free to get consensus to change it. Primefac (talk) 16:12, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Change the short name of Christian Democratic Union from

Can the short name of "Christian Democratic Union" be changed from "Christian Democratic Union" to "CDU". DotCoder (talk) 21:06, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

It is already CDU. I suspect wherever you are seeing it not as CDU, it has been changed manually in the article. Number 57 00:29, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

Edit request 5 September 2024

Can "European Conservatives and Reformists Group" be added as "ECR"? This group alliance page was moved to European Conservatives and Reformists Group. Natg 19 (talk) 17:38, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: According to the page's protection level you should be able to edit the page yourself. If you seem to be unable to, please reopen the request with further details. See Module:Political party § Updating the module for more info. Primefac (talk) 18:16, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

Thanks! I did not see these instructions of how to edit. Natg 19 (talk) 01:21, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

Edit request 6 September 2024

@Primefac

Description of suggested change: ["Secular Democratic Alliance"] = {abbrev = "SDA", color = "#E4032E", shortname = "Mahajot",} Diff:

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["Secular Democratic Alliance"] = {abbrev = "SDA", color = "#E4032E", shortname = "Mahajot",}

49.47.141.165 (talk) 05:56, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

 Completed. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^{put'er there} 10:41, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

Edit request 7 September 2024

@Primefac @Paine Ellsworth

Description of suggested change: ["Samajwadi Party"] = {abbrev = "SP", color = "#E3265B", shortname = "Samajwadi",}
["Communist Party of India (Marxist)"] = {abbrev = "CPI(M)", color = "#F0001C", shortname = "Marxist",}
["Communist Party of India"] = {abbrev = "CPI", color = "#B71C1C", shortname = "Communist",}
I suggest to change this colors they make problem in identifying. Interchange CPI and CPI(M) color. 49.47.141.165 (talk) 05:56, 7 September 2024 (UTC)

Integration with Wikidata

Hi,

I am interested in the use of Wikidata data in Wikipedia, especially for infoboxes. The core idea, of course, is to avoid duplication of work and there are many instances where this could be beneficial.

Has this been discussed previously? Are there initiatives in this sense? Julius Schwarz (talk) 18:53, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

Are you talking about this in regard specifically to this module, or are you just asking for general opinions? Primefac (talk) 19:54, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

This discussion started in User talk:Julius Schwarz#Linking party colours to Wikidata, after they started replacing the use of Template:Party color with links to Wikidata (example 1, example 2). Brainiac242 (talk) 20:15, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

From a "how easy is this to figure out for a relatively new editor", I am not really a fan of those example changes. My own personal bugbear with WD has always been how bloody obscure and unintuitive everything is; if I saw those edits in the wild I would have no idea what the WD calls were doing or even how I would check what values they access. Primefac (talk) 10:07, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

I guess this can be a broader discussion, but my question is specifically for this module, since this is in relation to what I mostly edit. I have worked to keep both Wikipedia and Wikidata up to date, and it seems like a lot of duplication, so I am interested in pushing for more integration -- maybe starting with pilot initiatives -- and the first question is whether this has been attempted or discussed before. Julius Schwarz (talk) 07:28, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

It has been discussed before, mostly in relation to biographical infoboxes, where the consensus is that WD is to be used very sparingly if at all because of the long-standing issues WD has with verifiability and sourcing as it relates to BLP-related matters. I haven't seen any of those types of discussions pop up lately so I honestly couldn't tell you the general feeling about WD, but my general advice would be that if you see duplication between the projects, get consensus before going around and mass-changing them; there are still a lot of folks who will either find the edits unnecessary or (for some individuals) outright problematic. Primefac (talk) 10:05, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback @Primefac and fair points. I have already reverted changes after a discussion made me realise I had been too hasty. I also tested some integration and it does come with a few challenges, from the point of view of the layout already. Julius Schwarz (talk) 11:45, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

Edit request 13 September 2024 (La France Insoumise)

Description of suggested change:

La France Insoumise's red is currently too similar to the reds of PS and PCF for my liking, I'd like to propose a return to its more official purple  , the party's article describes the red as "customary", but in almost all media I personally see, purple is more commonly used, plus, as I said, the colour has poor contrast with the country's other left-wing and left-leaning parties' colours. What are people's thoughts on this?

Diff:

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["La France Insoumise"] = {abbrev = "LFI", color = "#E53D40", shortname = "",},

+

["La France Insoumise"] = {abbrev = "LFI", color = "#56277E", shortname = "",},

– GlowstoneUnknown (Talk) 06:12, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

Edit request 13 September 2024

Description of suggested change: Make the colour for the Old Windsor Residents' Association #019642  

Diff:

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["Old Windsor Residents Association"] = {abbrev = "OWRA", color = "#019642", shortname = "",},

Infinite Hydra (talk) 18:26, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

 Done Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 19:10, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

Edit request 13 September 2024

Description of suggested change:

Could you please update the colour listed for the West Dunbartonshire Community Party in line with the party colour listed on its page, taken from its logo.

Diff:

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["West Dunbartonshire Community Party"] = {abbrev = "", color = "#C5000B", shortname = "West Dunbartonshire Community",},

+

["West Dunbartonshire Community Party"] = {abbrev = "", color = "#862C8A", shortname = "West Dunbartonshire Community",},

WanderingPlaywright (talk) 19:04, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

 Done Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 19:08, 13 September 2024 (UTC)