Portal talk:Underwater diving

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Oh no, this has a portal also!
Well, according to Wiktionary 'diving' is both 2. The sport of jumping head first into water.
and 3. The practice of swimming underwater, especially using a scuba system, and especially for recreation.
So underwater diving is either: 2. underwater jumping into water or 3. underwater swimming underwater
Neither makes any sense. You cannot jump underwater into water and the other is redundant, since the other meaning of diving already includes underwater in it. In rather same way one could talk about racial racism. Though, in Finland we already have "ikärasismi" (literally "age racism"). (talk) 12:52, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

The name is used to avoid ambiguity problems. Natural language tends to be context sensitive, and it saves a lot of confusion and frustration to use a consistent terminology within a project like this. The sport of jumping into the water head first seems to have a slightly greater claim on the word 'diving' on Wikipedia. Possibly it was just the first article with the name, so the disambiguation page referred to underwater swimming as underwater diving and this led to the portal name. Redundancy in names is fairly common, and when used as a disambiguation tool is not particularly offensive in the absence of a better term. Underwater swimming would not be a suitable title as the practice of working underwater is also referred to as diving in English, even when no swimming or jumping into the water is involved, and is a large part of the scope of the portal.
It is not clear from your comment whether you are objecting to the existence of the portal, or that you disapprove of the name choice, or something else. Perhaps you could clarify this point, and if you have a constructive suggestion, please go ahead and make it. Peter (Southwood) (talk): 17:13, 20 July 2012 (UTC)