Talk:Élie, duc Decazes

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His title was not duc DE Decazes

Élie Decazes was NOT the duc DE Decazes. He was the duc Decazes. In the Peerage of France, family names (unless dependent on the name of a fiefdom) were not given the extra "de" in between the rank and the name associated with the rank. Decazes is a family name and not a fiefdom. Because of this no "de" was included in his new title. A similar case in point is Hortense Mancini. Her husband was specifically made the duc Mazarin and not duc de Mazarin because Mazarin was a family name and not the name of an appanage. The title of this article needs to be moved. BoBo (talk) 23:58, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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This bio notice seems contradictory with most French sources, especially regarding pedigree and alliances.

Remains questionable to me

marek2

Marek2 (talk) 17:28, 17 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I made a confusion between Elie Decazes and Pierre Elysée Decazes.

I withdraw my comment.

marek2 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Marek2 (talk • contribs) 13:37, 24 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Last edited at 13:38, 24 October 2008 (UTC). Substituted at 11:22, 30 April 2016 (UTC)