Talk:Țara Litua
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[edit]Hi, how do we know the common languages there? I can see now “Romanian and Slavic”. Btw in history maps that region is called Cumania, also Hungarian kings like Bela IV had the title “king of Cumania” and Popes requested many missons from Hungarians to baptize the Cumans there. Also the names of leading stratum in that regions are Cuman/Turkic, so why the Cuman language is absent from the infobox?
Martyn Rady, Nobility, land and service in medieval Hungary, page 90
“During the late twelfth century, however, the balance of forces on the Danube changed. The nomadic Cumans commenced not only a series of irruptions into both Hungarian and Byzantine territory, but also participated in the Bulgarian revolt, which led to the reestablishment of the Bulgarian empire and to the subsequent loss of the Greek forts on the Lower Danube. Around this time too, Cumans began to settle in large numbers east of the River Olt in the area which would later be known as Cumania.46 Just a little later, Vlach chieftains are first recorded in this region. A number of these and of their successors bore such Turkic names as Karapeh and Bazarab, while the toponymy of some of the earliest and most densely populated areas of Romanian settlement shows strong evidence of Cuman place-names.47 All this suggests an early Romanian symbiosis with the Cumans and points to a possible Cuman role in establishing the first Romanian political organizations.”
OrionNimrod (talk) 15:43, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- I added Romanian and Slavic because I was sure they were spoken there at the time. I will add more when I get some sources. V.A. Zerva (talk) 16:56, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- Hi V.A. Zerva, You see in the above provided source the Cumans, by a British historian: https://www.academia.edu/1825911/Nobility_land_and_service_in_medieval_Hungary OrionNimrod (talk) 20:32, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for the source! I used it to add Cuman and German (Transylvanian Saxon) in the infobox. V.A. Zerva (talk) 06:35, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- Hi V.A. Zerva, this map also show the Cumans in that region c. 1250: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Public_Schools_Historical_Atlas_-_Europe_13th_century.jpg OrionNimrod (talk) 19:49, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for the source! I used it to add Cuman and German (Transylvanian Saxon) in the infobox. V.A. Zerva (talk) 06:35, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- Hi V.A. Zerva, You see in the above provided source the Cumans, by a British historian: https://www.academia.edu/1825911/Nobility_land_and_service_in_medieval_Hungary OrionNimrod (talk) 20:32, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
