Talk:.22 Long

Velocities

The velocity is wrong, it says 1038 fps. .22 LR ammunition is now a more common 1295 fps. Also, companies still produce ammunition and firearms. Marlin and Savage have both introduced their new trigger systems, the Accushot and T-900 into their .22 rimfires. They are new weapons with those setups. Hollow points as well can travel at an even higher velocity of around 1400 fps as stated by the ammunition companies. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.177.189.124 (talk • contribs) 00:44, 7 May 2008

I don't understand. If .22 Long Rifle is commonly 1295 fps, how does that affect the velocity of .22 Long? Same with Marlin and Savage, googling a little I find a lot of references to rifles in .22 LR, but not a single one for .22 Long. Are you sure you haven't just mixed them up? -- Jao (talk) 07:45, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

The standard .22 Long Rifle runs right at the speed of sound, around 1000 to 1100 fps, with a 40 grain bullet. .22 Long Rifle High Velocity runs a couple of hundred fps faster with the same bullet weight, and Hyper Velocity rounds run up to 1800 fps with a bullet as light as 30 grains. .22 Long is loaded with a lighter bullet, generally the same 29 grain bullet used in the .22 Short, giving it a shorter overall length; the original black powder loadings for Short and Long were a 29 grain bullet with 4 and 5 grains of powder, respectively. The .22 Long runs around 1000 fps, which was faster than the Short and the original black powder Long Rifle loads. The .22 Long round, like the .22 Short, was originally a pistol round used in small revolvers for self defense; the Long Rifle loading came along 16 years after the .22 Long to provide a heavier bullet. With the advent of smokeless powder, the Long Rifle loading quickly eclipsed the .22 Long, which is basically obsolete, with only a couple of manufacturers loading it. The .22 Short would probably also be obsolete, if not for its continued use in high end target pistols (though they've switched to .22 LR now) and the fact that it's nearly silent out of a rifle, which makes it ideal for short range plinking and pest control. scot (talk) 14:54, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Big selling point for .22 Short and .22 Long as late as the 1960s was the fact that they were slightly cheaper than .22 Long Rifle and appealed to budget-minded hunters and plinkers. By sheer scale of volume production, cost of .22 Long Rifle is less than cost of .22 Short or .22 Long today, contributing to the decline in popularity of the Short and Long. Naaman Brown (talk) 21:15, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

The actual .22LR velocity spans a rather wide range, depending upon the specific cartridge and the barrel length, among other things. One may see velocities as low as 660 FPS or as high as 1500 FPS (the above claim of 1800 is highly dubious), as evidenced by Ballistics By the Inch . TDHofstetter (talk) 15:12, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

References

Mismatching information

Why are the specs in the main section different from the sidebar? The main section information looks correct, while some of the sidebar section looks wrong. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.188.82.72 (talk) 04:38, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Yes, the .22 long rifle uses the .22 long case (.595"), same case, different bullet weight and powder charge. The case length .412" given in .22 long info box was shorter than .22 short (.423") which is impossible. Corrected. 76.7.183.239 (talk) 14:53, 21 June 2009 (UTC) That was me. Naaman Brown (talk) 14:53, 21 June 2009 (UTC)