Talk:1922 Committee

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When and Why Formed and Named[edit]

I must say that I was sceptical about the 1922 being formed in 1923 having held the view that it was formed in 1922 following a Conservative victory at a by-election in Newport and the following events whereby Conservative MPs voted to leave the then Liberal-Conservative coalition causing Conservative leader Austen Chamberlain to resign.

Chamberlain was replaced by Andrew Bonar Law who won a majority for the Conservatives at the 1922 General Election. The 1922 Committee was then formed by Conservative backbench MPs in April 1923 and named after the year in which the MPs who formed the committee were elected (1922).

UK Parliament Web Site

BBC Politics A-Z

The links are confused on the matter. The 1922 Committee was originally a support group for new members elected in the 1922 election and founded by them. It was only in subsequent years that membership was expanded to the full parliamentary party. Timrollpickering (talk) 12:40, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

'The name does not stem from a famous October 1922 meeting in which Conservative MPs successfully demanded that the party withdraw from the coalition government of David Lloyd George.' This does not make sense, and looks like vandalism. 109.154.233.80 (talk) 17:39, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

No, it makes perfect sense. The 1922 Committee is named after the 1922 General Election at which the MPs who founded it had just been returned (and it was at first just one of many ginger groups of the kind that ambitious rookie MPs often form - only later did it become institutionalised to represent all Tory backbenchers). It does not, as is often popularly supposed, refer to the Carlton Club meeting in October 1922 which voted to end the coalition. Debunking popular myths and misconceptions like this is actually something which Wikipedia is very good at.Paulturtle (talk) 14:06, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

The UK Parliament website seems to be saying the exact opposite though. 128.30.9.163 (talk) 21:35, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

Which is a classic example of why Wikipedia articles need to be based on proper research into what old-fashioned authoritative books have to say on the topic in question, not rubbish which somebody has posted on another website.Paulturtle (talk) 21:36, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

Possible anon vandalism?[edit]

This large edit was carried out by an anon IP with a recent vandalism history. Can anyone confirm if it's a good one, or should it be reverted? Andy Dingley (talk) 18:50, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Well I've now reverted it as per WP:Honorific. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 18:34, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Mad[edit]

I forget the exact quote, but who was it who said that "the first two (or three) people who speak at the 1922 Committee, on any topic, are mad?" The quote was already in circulation in the 1980s iirc. I dare say Julian Critchley circulated it, but I doubt he invented it.Paulturtle (talk) 14:06, 27 November 2015 (UTC)