Talk:1961 Atlantic hurricane season

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Major hurricanes[edit]

"Having 7 major hurricanes out of 8 hurricanes, this season holds the record for the highest proportion of major hurricanes. "

Hmm. perhaps not 1917 and 1919 have 1 or 2 major hurricanes and no cat 1 or 2 hurricanes so their proportion is 100%. crandles 13:26, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

"The season had 7 major hurricanes, the second highest number on record, despite having only 8 total hurricanes." This is what I've added in its place, which is better than listing a dubious and non-notable record. — jdorje (talk) 00:44, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

Money question[edit]

Hi.

Why did Clara cause a damage of $408 Millions, but the total damage was $391,6 Millions?The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.57.18.188 (talk • contribs) .

Good question and good catch. The reference for Carla is incorrect. I got the total of $391.6 million from the monthly weather review located here. I will fix Carla accordingly. Hurricanehink 19:51, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

Strongest storm[edit]

I'm a proponent of listing just one storm as the strongest. For 1958, I cut Cleo (a nominal cat5) and kept only Helene (which had much lower pressure readings). However, for this 1961 season I see no criteria for choosing between strengths of Hattie or Carla. Both have incomplete pressure readings, but both have pressures from their peak intensities and Hattie's is lower. Carla's winds are higher, however. — jdorje (talk) 00:44, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

I had the same problem with my hurricane archive. NOAA usually goes by pressure, so that's probably what we should go by, when reliable readings are available. -- §HurricaneERIC§Damagesarchive 02:49, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
When reliable readings are available, we should always go by pressure. Of the seasons since 1950, the only debatable ones are 1958 and 1961 I think. — jdorje (talk) 04:17, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

Anna, Betsy, and Debbie[edit]

I picked up Anna, Betsy, and Debbie for you on pictures. Hope you enjoy them. Jake52

Good job. Hurricanehink (talk) 11:34, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
By the way, the archived reports in NHC's website also contain three radar images of Tropical Storm Six. I hesitate to pick these up because of the fact that they are archived. The only other storm picture in these archives is a gapped picture of Hurricane Dora. Jake52

Inline references[edit]

All that prevents this article from being B class, in my view, is the complete lack of inline references. Thegreatdr 16:43, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

This review is transcluded from Talk:1961 Atlantic hurricane season/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Hurricanehink (talk · contribs) 14:46, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

I'll review this now.

  • Neat (and timely) opening sentence!! Might I suggesting using this source? Right now, it has the March 2011 as the date (for the season summary part where you properly ref it).
  • Fixed. It also worked as a more up-to-date source for ACE.--12george1 (talk) 23:22, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
  • " It was an average season" - this directly contradicts the opening sentence.
  • Eh, but later in the article it says the number of storms was above average, based on the 1950-2000 avg. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 04:06, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
  • "Debbie then brushed Ireland as a Category 1 hurricane shortly before becoming extratropical. " - that suggests it struck Ireland while tropical, which contradicts the main article
  • "resulting in a total of twelve deaths."
  • "It was an above average season in which eleven tropical depressions formed" - do you know that there were no TD's that weren't in HURDAT?
  • Does HURDAT really prove that the unnamed TS "initially went unnoticed"? I'd like more confirmation.
  • But did it go unnoticed? Or was it treated as a TD? ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 04:06, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
  • "Later that day, the final system, Tropical Storm Inga..." - this implies Inga formed on the 8th. Is that right?
  • " Subtropical cyclones, such as the first storm, are excluded from the total" - Anna was subtropical?
  • Were there any subtropical storms though? If not, why mention? ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 04:06, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
  • "on September 5, a shortwave forced the low northeastward" - the map suggests northwest track
  • It isn't talking about Betsy. I believe the sentence is referring to this low: "Another low-pressure area later formed in the trough..."--12george1 (talk) 23:22, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
  • Oh, why bother mentioning the other low? You should clarify that this allowed the ridge to rebuild. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 04:06, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
  • How close did Betsy pass near Bermuda?
  • Not close enough :P --12george1 (talk) 23:22, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
  • " became a major hurricane after reaching Category 3 intensity" - but MH = C3, so that's redundant
  • How strong was Carla at landfall?
  • Why don't you include Carla's ET history? For that matter, ditto with Betsy, and probably other storms.
  • Any Canada impact for Carla? What about Frances?

All in all, pretty good! Just clarify these few things and I'll be happy to pass. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 18:27, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

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