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GA Review

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Reviewer: Armoreno10 (talk · contribs) 18:36, 9 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I am starting a review of this article. --armoreno10 18:36, 9 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I completed my review but would like a second opinion since I am new to reviewing GANs. Thanks for your help in advance! -- armoreno10 16:06, 5 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Criteria

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Good Article Status - Review Criteria
A good article is—
  1. Well-written:
  2. (a) the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct; and
    (b) it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.[1]
  3. Verifiable with no original research:
  4. (a) it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline;
    (b) reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose);[2] and
    (c) it contains no original research.
  5. Broad in its coverage:
  6. (a) it addresses the main aspects of the topic;[3] and
    (b) it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).
  7. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.
  8. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.
  9. [4]
  10. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
  11. [5]
    (a) media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content; and
    (b) media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.[6]

Review

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  1. Well-written:
  2. Criteria Notes Result
    (a) (prose) Meets the criteria Pass Pass
    (b) (MoS) Meets the criteria Pass Pass
  3. Verifiable with no original research:
  4. Criteria Notes Result
    (a) (references) Meets the criteria Pass Pass
    (b) (citations to reliable sources) Meets the criteria Pass Pass
    (c) (original research) Meets the criteria Pass Pass
  5. Broad in its coverage:
  6. Criteria Notes Result
    (a) (major aspects) See discussion point 4. Pass Pass
    (b) (focused) See discussion points 2 & 3. Pass Pass
  7. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.
  8. Notes Result
    Meets the criteria Pass Pass
  9. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.
  10. Notes Result
    Meets the criteria Pass Pass
  11. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
  12. Criteria Notes Result
    (a) (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales) Meets the criteria Pass Pass
    (b) (appropriate use with suitable captions) Meets the criteria Pass Pass

Result

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Result Notes
Pass Pass After 3 reviews the article passes to GA.

Discussion

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  1. References in introduction section. References to the statements in intro are placed in the body of the article. However, they are not in the introduction. Should the references be present in the intro? I believe so but would like a second opinion.
    IMO, there is no need for citations in lead because this section is intended to be a summary of article and thus the content should be cited within the body. Actually, "[citations are] often discouraged in the lead section".[7] — Bill william comptonTalk 04:23, 21 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Saw that Greek government-debt crisis is in the "See also" section. I am not certain of the relevance to this article and would like to remove.
    Done — Bill william comptonTalk 04:23, 21 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  3. The final paragraph in the "Closer Ceremony" section discusses the stripping of Greece's ability to host the 2013 Mediterranean games. This occured in 2011, 2 years after the 2009 Mediterrean Games. I believe that this is irrelevant. Any second opinions?
    I find it relevant to the context because if article goes into less detail then it may confuse the reader and the reader may not understand why the host of 2013 Games is Turkey not Greece. And, it's a general convention (on Wikipedia) to describe the handover of hosting rights within the article of last edition of the Games. — Bill william comptonTalk 04:23, 21 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  4. While the article mentions the cost of designing the Mediterrean Village, it does not address the total cost of the event. This should be added under the "Organisation" header.
    Unfortunately, this information is not available in any reliable online source. Mediterranean Games are not adequately covered by major English news sources. I was unable to find the information in even French, Spanish or Italian news sources. — Bill william comptonTalk 04:23, 21 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  5. The article does not address concerns and/or controversies that occurred with the games. See examples in the 2008 Summer Olympics and 2006 Winter Olympics articles. One instance might be the Flavia Zoccari disqualification.
    I'll look into it and will get back to you. — Bill william comptonTalk 03:38, 7 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  6. The article has a number of tense/grammar/punctuation issues. Here are examples, which I have corrected myself:
    (a) The first edition of the Mediterranean Games was held in the Egyptian city of Alexandria in 1951, attracted 734 competitors from 10 nations.
    (b) It was located in the municipality of Chieti, and was spread over an area of 18 acres (7.3 ha; 0.028 sq mi), comprising a 7 acres (2.8 ha; 0.011 sq mi) public park.
    (c) Equestrian was the only sport in which men and women compete together. (Should be competed)
    (d) Former Prime Minister of Croatia and the president of the Croatian Olympic Committee Zlatko Mateša expressed his disappointment, "it just shows, once again, that small countries have no chance of competing with the big ones". (Comma should be on the outside of the period.)
    I appreciate you taking care of all this. — Bill william comptonTalk 03:38, 7 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Second opinion by H1nkles

  • In-line refs aren't required for the Lead of most articles since the Lead is intended to be a recap of the body of the article and the assumption is that any assertions made in the lead are cited in the body of the article.
Sorry, but I'm having trouble finding a reference in lead. — Bill william comptonTalk 13:37, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't look to see if there was one I was just commenting on the point made by the reviewer since the reviewer is new to GA reviews. H1nkles (talk) citius altius fortius 15:09, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think it is neutral and the writing is fine for GA standards.
  • I think it is a good idea to style the article after Olympics articles and attempt to include as much of the information covered in those articles though we must keep in mind that the Olympic Games are a much larger scale and have a bigger profile so some topics either are not covered as thoroughly or may not apply at all.
  • It appears as though reference 102 may be a dead link, recommend investigating and fixing if necessary.
Fixed — Bill william comptonTalk 07:38, 18 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • The comprehensiveness is ok though a little odd to have the cost of the athlete's village but no over all costs for the Games.
  • One question I had was at the end of the Organising Committee section it says, "Aracu's decision was reportedly motivated by the bureaucratic reasons." What "bureaucratic reasons" are we talking about? That is clearly defined as I can see and should be if it's referenced here. On a similar note this resignation and dissolution appears to be a significant issue. Am I wrong? Perhaps it warrants a bit more coverage. What "urgent measures" needed to be addressed? This would speak to the comprehensive question.
  • Overall I think it's pretty close to passing GA. I'd like to see a little bit more on the Organising Committee issues and that possible dead link fixed but then I think it should pass. I will leave it up to the original reviewer to make any final determinations. Best of luck to everyone. H1nkles (talk) citius altius fortius 16:12, 10 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • After two "second" opinions and a note put on the reviewer's talk page requesting completion of the review it is apparent that this review is not going to be finalized by the originating reviewer. I will go ahead and wrap it up. I am confident based on all the notes here that the article meets the GA criteria and will confidently pass it to GA. Should the original reviewer wish to discuss the GAN process or this particular review please post a note on my talk page and I will be happy to reply. H1nkles (talk) citius altius fortius 14:20, 29 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Second opinion by Dom497

Fixed — Bill william comptonTalk 07:38, 18 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Additional Notes

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  2. ^ Either parenthetical references or footnotes can be used for in-line citations, but not both in the same article.
  3. ^ This requirement is significantly weaker than the "comprehensiveness" required of featured articles; it allows shorter articles, articles that do not cover every major fact or detail, and overviews of large topics.
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  6. ^ The presence of images is not, in itself, a requirement. However, if images (or other media) with acceptable copyright status are appropriate and readily available, then some such images should be provided.
  7. ^ WP:WHYCITE