Talk:2011 Ukraine mine accidents

This article was nominated for deletion on 3 August 2011. The result of the discussion was keep/rename.

Ukraine Mid‑importance

	Ukraine portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Ukraine, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Ukraine on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.UkraineWikipedia:WikiProject UkraineTemplate:WikiProject UkraineUkraine
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.

Disaster management Start‑class Low‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Disaster management, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Disaster management on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Disaster managementWikipedia:WikiProject Disaster managementTemplate:WikiProject Disaster managementDisaster management
Start	This article has been given a rating which conflicts with the project-independent quality rating in the banner shell. Please resolve this conflict if possible.
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Mining Start‑class Low‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Mining, a collaborative project to organize and improve articles related to mining and mineral industries. If you would like to participate, you can edit the attached article, or visit the project page, where you can see a list of open tasks, join in the discussion, or join the project.MiningWikipedia:WikiProject MiningTemplate:WikiProject MiningMining
Start	This article has been given a rating which conflicts with the project-independent quality rating in the banner shell. Please resolve this conflict if possible.
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Occupational Safety and Health Low‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Occupational Safety and Health, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of articles related to occupational safety and health on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Occupational Safety and HealthWikipedia:WikiProject Occupational Safety and HealthTemplate:WikiProject Occupational Safety and HealthOccupational Safety and Health
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Page title

The article is a good start, but as it is written currently it suggests already in the first line that "the 2011 mine accidents" in the Ukraine were these two accidents only. However, one can be sure that there are more mines in the Ukraine in which accidents occured, therefore I consider the original title refering to the name of the mine better - and obviously there should be a seperate page for the other mine in which the cage crashed down. The fact that the two mines incidently happened on the same day does not indicate that the two accidents would be linked.

Also, reading about the mine and its accident would require first some general technical data about that mine to better understand the circumstances.

Please avoid the impression that these two accidents were the only accidents in Ukrainian mines. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.200.70.42 (talk) 11:48, 31 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It was suggested again at the AFD that this article be renamed and/or it's scope expanded. That seems like a discussion that should be had here. This article could be renamed and expanded into a general article about mining and mine safety in Ukraine. Thoughts? Beeblebrox (talk) 16:24, 20 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I think it provides an opportunity to create an actual Coal mining in Ukraine article, rather than the re-direct, which would entail expanding the scope not to talk just about the accidents, but the industry in general. I think we need expert help.--Cerejota (talk) 19:12, 20 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]