Talk:2014 FIFA World Cup qualification – CONCACAF fourth round

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goalscorer missing

I have no idea what I'm doing, so I'll just report here that Donovan is missing from Goalscorers list, despite being listed as having a goal scored in the first game of the 4th round. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:4:1100:BA:F0D5:D10D:49FA:A289 (talk) 22:20, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Actually Dempsey is listed as scoring the only goal in the 1st match of the 4th round. Not sure what you are looking at. Chris1834 (talk) 22:29, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Next matchday scenarios?

I'm very confused. In a previous discussion (see Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard/Archive_54#Talk:2012.E2.80.9313_UEFA_Champions_League_group_stage), it was decided not to have next matchday scenarios on these pages, yet I see them on this page. Are we not supposed to have them on these pages anymore? Or is it for certain pages? Thanks for clarification. 68.116.191.34 (talk) 23:30, 19 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Well, as one of the neutral contributors whose opinion made up that dispute resolution stated himself, it was nothing more than that - their opinion. It had no binding effect. LarryJeff (talk) 04:50, 21 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I think we should not have these scenarios as they are often very complicated. And also the the dispute resolution above states that we should not have it. QED237 (talk) 21:53, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Error in table generator?

The table generator currently (12 Sept) indicates Jamaica are eliminated from qualification, This is not the case: It is an unlikely scenario, but if Jamaica beat the United States, then Mexico and Panama draw, followed by a win by Jamaica over Honduras, and wins by the US over Panama and Costa Rica over Mexico, then Jamaica finish fourth, with 10 points (2 wins, 4 draws 4 losses) ahead of both Mexico and Panama, both on 9 points, (1 win, 6 draws, 3 losses) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.144.199.98 (talk) 03:38, 13 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

From what I can see now it has been fixed. Jamaica is supposed to have the yellow color since they can not come top3 and qualify directly, but they can be fourth. The table is a template, that anyone can change so there is not any generator, if there is something wrong in the table it is because a editor changed it. QED237 (talk) 10:00, 13 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

A triple draw is possible

So, the Hex's right now this way

#	Team	P	W	D	L	GF	GA	Dif	Pts
3	Honduras	8	3	2	3	10	10	0	11
4	Panama	8	1	5	2	7	9	-2	8
5	Mexico	8	1	5	2	4	6	-2	8

They're competing for either to qualify directly or to go to the play-off against New Zealand.

If we have this possible scenario:

Honduras 0-1 Costa Rica
Mexico 3-2 Panama
Jamaica 1-0 Honduras
Panama 1-0 United States
Costa Rica 4-3 Mexico

...the Hex will finish like this:

#	Team	P	W	D	L	GF	GA	Dif	Pts
3	Honduras	10	3	2	5	10	12	-2	11
	Panama	10	2	5	3	10	12	-2	11
	Mexico	10	2	5	3	10	12	-2	11

...which makes it a Triple draw between these teams. In the particular duels:

Panama 2-0 Honduras. Honduras 2-2 Panama: Panama defeats Honduras.
Honduras 2-2 Mexico. Mexico 1-2 Honduras: Honduras defeats Mexico.
Panama 0-0 Mexico. Mexico 3-2 Panama: Mexico defeats Panama.

I don't know what FIFA or CONCACAF have to do in this case. Is there a solution for this, without making drawing of lots? --AndSalx95 (talk) 22:39, 6 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I can look up the rules but I think the tiebreaker is the matches amongst the teams in question (the above named matches) which will give the following table:

Team	P	W	D	L	GF	GA	Dif	Pts
Panama	4	1	2	1	6	5	+1	5
Mexico	4	1	2	1	6	6	0	5
Honduras	4	1	2	1	6	7	-1	5

In this case Panama will be 3rd, Mexico 4th and Honduras 5th. QED237 (talk) 23:00, 6 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

According to this I am correct. 3rd Panama, 4th Mexico, 5th Honduras. QED237 (talk) 23:07, 6 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! :) I knew that 2 goals margin Panama has over Honduras could make a difference, but didn't know how. Again, thank you. --AndSalx95 (talk) 02:14, 7 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Clinching Scenarios - October 15

Clinching scenarios that are irrelevant to qualification are in italics.

United States has won the hexagonal
Costa Rica finishes second in the hexagonal
Honduras finishes third in the hexagonal
Mexico finishes fourth in the hexagonal and advances to the intercontinental playoff.
Panama is eliminated from World Cup contention.

Final day events

I understand that this should not be a newspaper account, but I think the way the events played out is noteworthy. For example, Google search: "US rescues mexico world cup". I'm going to revert the article to approximately the previous version. Rks13 (talk) 02:25, 18 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]