Talk:2018 Liqui Moly Bathurst 12 Hour

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Teams column[edit]

Why are completely valid race teams, some of which act as important clarifiers, continually being deleted? --Falcadore (talk) 13:42, 29 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Falcadore, to remain consistent with other Bathurst 12 Hour Articles, only the team listed on the Entry list will be listed i.e. YNA Autosport and not who oversaw preparation i.e. McElrea Racing, therefore the team name for cars 47 & 58 is YNA Motorsport (Maxrenaudin54 (talk) 11:55, 15 May 2018 (UTC))[reply]

Amusingly your assertion that other Bathurst 12 Hour articles uses the name on the Entry List is completely false, if you had bothered to check the entry lists of other years. Racing team names have been substituted for entrant names in the majority of cases. So consistency works in the opposite direction to what you have said.
The "team" listed on the entry list is not the team, it is the entrant. Team and Entrant are not interchangeable terms. Hence the column is titled "Team/Entrant", to prevent obscurity created by for example, "Supercheap Auto Racing", an identity which has drifted around amongst drivers and teams but has no ongoing connection over it's history other than the writing on the stickers. Formula One McLarens are not called Marlboros or Wests or Vodafones or Johnnie Walkers.
There is no compulsion to be consistent. But consistency can be applied in other directions as all other major motorsport articles but the emphasis on the race team not the sponsor. Also, it obscures which entries are team mates of each other. The Sun Energy Mercedes is a perfect example of this. Kenny Habul's Sun Energy team races in the US within the NASCAR system, but apart from Habul and his business, there is no connection, at all, with Scott Taylor Motorsport the team that did all the prep and ran the car. There is no external structure from Habul US team, they are just a sticker slapped over the top.
In Supercars the individual Nissan Altimas are not referred to by their individual sponsors, they are referred to as Nissan Motorsport Australia.
Also which is the more important information to record for posterity, the sponsored identity which can change or vanish on a year-to-year basis, or the racing team involved which continues year-to-year, has ongoing relationships with drivers.
Cars are recorded as Mercedes-AMGs for example, they are not called, the SunEnergy car. --Falcadore (talk) 08:11, 17 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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