Talk:2019 Super W season

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Western Force vs RugbyWA[edit]

Rugby Australia has distanced it's self from The Western Force. The women's competition and NRC will field teams from the Association, not the club. Check the official Australian Rugby web page and you will see its RugbyWA. Their logo and they also play in a different strip to the Western Force.--Kpaspery (talk) 01:40, 4 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Kpaspery. I appreciate you trying get things accurate. Let's go through this step by step. Firstly, I have no issue with RugbyWA Women being the name of the team (note that my edits do in fact show the RugbyWA name). Looking at the sources (all bold emphasis in the quotes below are mine) ...

Local newspaper Wanneroo Times reported two weeks ago that:

“After a disappointing loss against the NSW Waratahs last Sunday, the RugbyWA Women will return to Kingsway Reserve for the second year in a row to face the ACT Brumbies Women.”

The team homepage of RugbyWA Women states:

“After a massive 2018 maiden season our Super W women will be back at it again in the 2019 Buildcorp Super W season. After finishing third in their first year in the competition the Western Force Women have competed in a number of trail matches and tournaments in the lead up to the 2019 Season.”

Rugby.com.au website's season preview for the team reported:

“The re-branded RugbyWA Women side have unveiled their Super W squad for 2019, along with a retro-style west Aussie jersey. Playing as the Western Force Women, the side came third in the inaugural 2018 season and have named a strong squad for the second instalment of the Super W competition.”

WA's team in the 2019 Super W competition is the same entity as played in the 2018 competition. A change of name (or even a change of ownership, although not applicable in this case) doesn't alter that. The Western Force Women was renamed as RugbyWA Women.

By extension, there is no defunct women's team – it's just the same team rebranded. Other points:

The logo used by the RugbyWA Women's team and also by the RugbyWA union (a stylised black swan) is the same as used by the Western Force, with the wordmark varied to reflect the respective names.
The NRC team is called the Western Force – and the same playing squad is used for both NRC and WSR/Rapid Rugby. Same team. The Western Force strip in the NRC is black and gold, the same colours as the women's team.

Within this encyclopedia, info about the Super W teams is in sections within the articles for the existing associated professional teams. Your edits break that link. These are teams with annual rosters, coaches and fixtures; they're not organising bodies. Eventually, the Super W teams may meet the requirements for their own standalone pages but in the meantime the links to their respective text should be retained. -- Ham105 (talk) 04:37, 4 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate you trying to get things right also, but the fact remains that the ONLY reference in this article is from Rugby.Com.Au stating them as RugbyWA. So that is the only fact unless you would like to add more!--Kpaspery (talk) 21:46, 5 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ham105, I think you just proved Kpaspery theory is correct. They are re-branded. Not the same team. Most of those articles you put are talking about the series, not the team.--Greg Nail (talk) 01:44, 6 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks @Kpaspery: references have now been added. Hi @Greg Nail: in a rebranding, the entity itself continues on – it's a rename. Here's another example - same ground, new name. -- Ham105 (talk) 07:35, 6 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]