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Logo question

Back in the Dark Ages (late 60's--early 70's) when I was at Minot, the 5th's logo included the head of a cow or bull, bluish, in an arc at the top, above the current winged skull. This seems to have largely disappeared from more recent versions (and is now findable only in collections of historic logo versions). Why? And what exactly was the head's significance in the earlier logo? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.216.7.5 (talk) 20:10, 14 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Since the purpose of an encyclopedia is to expedite knowledge, I'm not going to change anything, but the 5th Bomb Wing article is linked to the Fifteenth Air Force article. The 5th Bomb Wing in World War II, however, has NO connection whatsoever to the 5th Bomb Wing here. The USAF 5th Bomb Wing is a descendent of the 5th Bomb GROUP, a B-17 and later B-24 outfit with the Thirteenth Air Force.--Buckboard 16:25, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

There was no 5th Bomb Wing in World War II. There was, however, a 5th Bombardment Wing, later the 5th Air Division. --Lineagegeek (talk) 00:52, 22 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Logo question

Back in the bad old days (late 60's-early 70's) when I was at Minot, the 5th's logo included an arc at the top (above the winged-skull logo) with a bluish cow's or bull's head in it. This now seems largely to have disappeared and is not part of the current logo.

Why?

And what was the significance of the head in the first place?

152.216.7.5 (talk) 20:14, 14 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Back in the days of the Army (and the 5th Group was an army unit) groups had coats of arms that included (under certain conditions) a shield and a crest. The winged skull "logo" was the shield and is today's emblem. The bull's head was the crest above the shield. Because of the form of USAF unit flags, all USAF units have the same crest (an eagle) and old Army units that had their own crests no longer use them. --Lineagegeek (talk) 12:31, 22 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]