Talk:800 metres

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Training Plan

The writing in the following section is just awful. I don't know enough wikipedia rules to want to change it, but somebody should.

"800 meter runners go through a different training plan. As they are planning for the year, they go through different phases. Scott Abbott a track coach of Sacramento State university stated, athlete of the 800 meter trains during the summer by doing base training, cross Country by doing Aerobic development, and winter by doing recovery and transition track workout. Speed work for an 800 athlete could be 100-400m pace run and sprint work. Endurance could simply be 5k/3k pace and high-end Aerobic as Abbott concluded." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cheesysam (talk • contribs) 14:04, 9 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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What is a person called RABBIT in a race? please if You know What Is RABBITS Role? in a race. Thanks

A--A rabbit is employed by the promoters of top level meets to try to ensure the pace is fast. As discussed in the tactics on the page, it is possible that none of the competitors would want to run fast from the beginning of the race. It is entirely possible for all competitors to tactically wait until they choose their spot to kick. Professional "kickers" might even employ tactics to try to slow down a race, as often happens in major International Championships where a rabbit is not possible (because all competitors in a final have to qualify and are there ostensibly for their own glory). Rabbits are allowed in races when they are equal to other competitors, starting simultaneously with the other competitors. They are paid to try to hit specific time marks (frequently as designated by the meet director or the top competitors in the race attempting a record). By doing so, most rabbits are assumed to be sacrificing their opportunity to win the race. Most drop out as they are being passed after the designated split point. On rare occasions (more often in marathons), when the top competitors do not respect the rabbit enough to follow the pace, giving them too much of a lead, rabbits have continued on to actually win the race. Similar situations have also happened when the person given a huge lead (perhaps one who knows they do not have a strong finishing kick and runs aggressively at the start of a race) is not a paid rabbit--that is referred to as stealing a race or the attempt being to try to steal a race.Trackinfo (talk) 20:36, 23 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wind Resistance

I'm not sure, but I don't think that wind resistance is really key in an 800m run. It is for biking, possibly sprints, but 800 is, I believe, too long and slow to be affected by air resistance.

Correct me if I'm wrong. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.26.200.161 (talk) 05:34, 18 March 2007 (UTC).[reply]

If a person were to race alone, it wouldn't be a factor, not because the race is slow (the pace is quite fast), but because they would experience equal amount of both tailwind and headwind, regardless the direction and intensity of the wind. However, in a race, the only people experiencing the winds are the leader, and the person in dead last; thus, the leader is disadvantaged when running against the wind, and does not benefit any advantage when running with the wind. 74.101.163.92

Wind resistance in running is a minor factor, significantly less than say bicycle racing or NASCAR, but it is a factor. As much of the factor of making leading a race disadvantageous is the mental energy required to keep your own pace without tactically being able to see what is happening behind you. Followers, even the follower behind a single rabbit, can relax, which generally make running easier. Trackinfo (talk) 20:36, 23 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The 800 isn't really 'long and slow' by any means. I'm a high school runner who's only on a second year on track, and my 800 pace is in the neighborhood of 80% of my 200 pace. Also, if anything, distance coaches are more likely to be intense about avoiding wind, since the lane-lacking long events facilitate letting someone else break the wind.--71.164.2.116 (talk) 07:24, 4 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

World Leaders

While the list of world leading times for each year is certainly interesting, it is very long, and I'm not sure if it's necessary for the article. I mean, you can always find more and more track and field statistics to put, but if somebody wants to find those statistics they should probably just look at the direct source (IAAF). Mipchunk (talk) 01:43, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Tactics

It makes no sense to say..."this usually leads to an abnormally slow first 400m," since if this "usually" happens it is by definition not "abnormal". And since you have said that this happens only "occasionally" it is not obvious what "normal" and "usual" mean in this context. I have therefore completely re-written the whole paragraph so that it makes sense. Cottonshirt (talk) 05:46, 31 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Top ten all-time athletes on the men's 800 m

I thought Johnny Gray ran close to 1:42.20 in the early nineties (1992?)... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alkaselzer (talk • contribs) 19:03, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Johnny Gray's best ever time was 1:42.60 (actually set in 1985) which puts him at #13 on the all-time list.--Pawnkingthree (talk) 21:16, 23 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Obvious error : 1:20 time for Khamis

His wiki page lists 1:42.23 as his personal best, and if it were the Junior world record, it would also be the world record because it is a much faster time than the world record. Also, it is a *much* faster time than the world record. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 54.240.196.185 (talk) 15:27, 8 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

World Junior Record

This has actually just changed hands now belongs to Nigel Amos 1:41:73 also the 3rd fasted athlete in history over this event — Preceding unsigned comment added by QueenAlexandria (talk • contribs) 19:19, 9 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Laps

What r the laps 2601:5CC:1:D40:5D60:85AB:E0BE:327C (talk) 22:15, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Even split is most efficient

The article currently states:

"Theoretically, an even split is the most efficient running mode, but it is difficult to pace correctly."

Surely, this just isn't true (as well as being unreferenced)? There is no way that the energy at the start and getting up to race speed is equal output to the second half of the race?

Even if, once at race speed, it is "best" to maintain a perfectly even pace from then on, this sentence would still be incorrect.

That said, I'm outside my expertise, so will leave it to someone more knowledgeable to correct. Quarrel (talk) 14:32, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]